Sizing on the river V unknown - 30nl.

DOHHHHHHH

Never seen the guy before, doesn't look right good though, he's been open limping, and seems the type who wants to see flops, quite loose passive, but not seen him go to showdown yet.

I just lost quite a big pot the hand before this, hence my stack....

How much would you raise on the river?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
stanley644	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£29.55
Skidmarks	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£31.43
	Your hole cards	A 3
SNOREBITZ	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£42.48
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.30	£1.05	£25.29
stanley644	Fold
Skidmarks	Check
Flop
		3 K 5
Skidmarks	Check
SNOREBITZ	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
Turn
		3
Skidmarks	Check
SNOREBITZ	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£1.05	£2.10	£24.24
Skidmarks	Call		£1.05	£3.15	£30.38
SNOREBITZ	Fold
River
		8
Skidmarks	Bet		£3.15	£6.30	£27.23
DOHHHHHHH	Raise

yuranASSet

10 Bangers Im very confident that although he is unknown he's pretty decent, only because of how deep he is and he's holding a weaker 3.

N1CK

why are you limping A3s otb?

DOHHHHHHH

I dunno, why not? - Drawing to the nuts innit

I limp all sorts otb with limpers in front of me.

Make the nuts - bet pot  =  win stacks   ;)

N1CK

i would raise that hand iso the limper bet that flop win money move on, if that fails you still have the chance to make nuts  - betpot =  win stacks ;)

pryce6

one limper, otb, isolate that...

DOHHHHHHH

Yeh I don't do it all the time.

I'd prob raise TJdd there.......sometimes.....

Limp small pairs sometimes, make a proper raise sometimes, min raise other times, I dunno.....

I like it when other people raise in front of me

pryce6

In Response to Re: Sizing on the river V unknown - 30nl.:

Yeh I don't do it all the time. I'd prob raise TJdd there.......sometimes..... Limp small pairs sometimes, make a proper raise sometimes, min raise other times, I dunno..... I like it when other people raise in front of me
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I would much rather iso a limper/raiser with that hand than just overlimp or flat a raise.

DOHHHHHHH

What's your raise on the river?

N1CK

In Response to Re: Sizing on the river V unknown - 30nl.:

What's your raise on the river?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

i would fold lol

LOL_RAISE

12ish on the river, id only overlimp if stacks were <50bbs effective

N1CK

i guess you have to stack off to this passive player who just bet pot into you, i hope he has the nuts after you let him in for free PF, id make it 10 and call if shoved

DOHHHHHHH

Looks like I got another 1 wrong !!!!!

Not big enough......

Dudeskin8

Raise to about £9-10, maybe a bit more. But why do you need help with this sort of hand ? :S

DOHHHHHHH

Just re-assurance really, don't see many posts like this in the clinic, so it's probably an area where I can start getting more value....

I lost out on 10/12xbb's it seems.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
stanley644	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£29.55
Skidmarks	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£31.43
	Your hole cards	A 3
SNOREBITZ	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£42.48
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.30	£1.05	£25.29
stanley644	Fold
Skidmarks	Check
Flop
		3 K 5
Skidmarks	Check
SNOREBITZ	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Check
Turn
		3
Skidmarks	Check
SNOREBITZ	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£1.05	£2.10	£24.24
Skidmarks	Call		£1.05	£3.15	£30.38
SNOREBITZ	Fold
River
		8
Skidmarks	Bet		£3.15	£6.30	£27.23
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£7.88	£14.18	£16.36
Skidmarks	Call		£4.73	£18.91	£22.50
DOHHHHHHH	Show	A 3
Skidmarks	Muck	K 4
DOHHHHHHH	Win	Three 3s	£17.96		£34.32

pryce6

does he really call 10-12 though?

LOL_RAISE

only one way to find out. but generally when people press the pot button and are not bluffing they do not like to fold afterwards

N1CK

In Response to Re: Sizing on the river V unknown - 30nl.:

only one way to find out. but generally when people press the pot button and are not bluffing they do not like to fold afterwards
Posted by LOL_RAISE

even more so when the player is ment to be passive, on reflection i would expect him to have a stronger hand than he showed so maybe betting slightly bigger or even jamming wouldnt be bad in the long run?