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Could i have played different? Did the Villain take a punt or have right odds to call with J7 off?

gogogamgogogam
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Villain Small blind  25.00 25.00 1775.00
Player CBig blind  50.00 75.00 2560.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
gogogam Raise  200.00 275.00 1975.00
Player ACall  200.00 475.00 1855.00
Player BCall  200.00 675.00 1560.00
xxxxx Fold     
Villain Call  175.00 850.00 1600.00
Player CCall  150.00 1000.00 2410.00
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 7
  • 2
     
Villain Check     
Player CCheck     
gogogam Bet  500.00 1500.00 1475.00
Player ACall  500.00 2000.00 1355.00
Player BFold     
Villain All-in  1600.00 3600.00 0.00
Player CFold     
gogogam Fold     
Player A Call  1100.00 4700.00 255.00
Villain Show
  • J
  • 7
   
Player A Show
  • 6
  • 6
   
Turn
   
  • 3
     
River
   
  • J
     
Villain Win Full House, 7s and Jacks 4700.00
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  • StackMeNowStackMeNow
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Could i have played different? Did the Villain take a punt or have right odds to call with J7 off?:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Villain  Small blind   25.00 25.00 1775.00 Player C Big blind   50.00 75.00 2560.00   Your hole cards Q Q       gogogam Raise   200.00 275.00 1975.00 Player A Call   200.00 475.00 1855.00 Player B Call   200.00 675.00 1560.00 xxxxx  Fold         Villain  Call   175.00 850.00 1600.00 Player C Call   150.00 1000.00 2410.00 Flop     7 7 2       Villain  Check         Player C Check         gogogam Bet   500.00 1500.00 1475.00 Player A Call   500.00 2000.00 1355.00 Player B Fold         Villain  All-in   1600.00 3600.00 0.00 Player C Fold         gogogam Fold         Player A  Call   1100.00 4700.00 255.00 Villain  Show J 7       Player A  Show 6 6       Turn     3       River     J       Villain  Win Full House, 7s and Jacks 4700.00
    Posted by gogogam
    Villain did take a punt at seeing a flop-but at decent odds-paying £175 to win £675 most players will take them odds.As it turns out the cards beat you and he got lucky but with every right to see the flop.Cant invisage you playing it any differently to be fair just one of those things.Think we should be questioning the calls with pocket 6s from player A tho!!
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  • SmoothDudeSmoothDude
    edited February 2011
    Would be interesting to know whether this was a generally loose table? A little context would be good. I'm assuming this is a MTT and I think it's Level 2?

    He has the odds to call pre flop and early in MTT you'll get a lot of this kind of calling. Your raise to 4 bigs isn't large enough for me, I would maybe go 6.

    Post flop, what did you think he had? Not sure I would be folding the QQ anyway. So other than raising more pre-flop there's not really much you could have done.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2011
    i prob would of 3/4 bet the pot or more personally. nice fold btw i prob would of snap called.
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  • gogogamgogogam
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Could i have played different? Did the Villain take a punt or have right odds to call with J7 off?:
    In Response to Could i have played different? Did the Villain take a punt or have right odds to call with J7 off? : Villain did take a punt at seeing a flop-but at decent odds-paying £175 to win £675 most players will take them odds.As it turns out the cards beat you and he got lucky but with every right to see the flop.Cant invisage you playing it any differently to be fair just one of those things.Think we should be questioning the calls with pocket 6s from player A tho!!
    Posted by StackMeNow
    I think if player A hadn't have called my raise post flop, would have probably called the villain's all-in, so they saved me some chips.
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  • gogogamgogogam
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Could i have played different? Did the Villain take a punt or have right odds to call with J7 off?:
    Would be interesting to know whether this was a generally loose table? A little context would be good. I'm assuming this is a MTT and I think it's Level 2? He has the odds to call pre flop and early in MTT you'll get a lot of this kind of calling. Your raise to 4 bigs isn't large enough for me, I would maybe go 6. Post flop, what did you think he had? Not sure I would be folding the QQ anyway. So other than raising more pre-flop there's not really much you could have done.
    Posted by SmoothDude
    It was a 1.15 DYM Sit and Go, level 3. Nothing much had happened for me to think it was a loose table. A7 was a hand i thought the villain or player A could have had, maybe even A2, ace's and king's also crossed my mind. Player A's call post flop stopped me from calling the all-in. 
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  • SmoothDudeSmoothDude
    edited February 2011
    That's pretty good reasoning on your part, and a good laydown.
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