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sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker

wannaBwannaB
edited February 2011 in Area 51
Sitting at the same table for both hands, both times i had a set of 5s. I got beat by a set of aces, all the money went in on the flop fair enough. So spent the next hour building up my money then....... I got beat by a set of kings which hit on the river, all the money went in on the flop.
I dont mind a set beating a set but to happen twice to u on the same table. enough is enough.
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited February 2011
    In Response to sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    Sitting at the same table for both hands, both times i had a set of 5s. I got beat by a set of aces, all the money went in on the flop fair enough. So spent the next hour building up my money then....... I got beat by a set of kings which hit on the river, all the money went in on the flop. I dont mind a set beating a set but to happen twice to u on the same table. enough is enough.
    Posted by wannaB

    so aces beat 5s,and kings beat 5s...

    hardly a statistical anomaly is it?


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    In Response to sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker : so aces beat 5s,and kings beat 5s... hardly a statistical anomaly is it?
    Posted by djblacke04

    Set over set + set over set 

    You've been on here to long if you think that's normal.

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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker : Set over set + set over set  You've been on here to long if you think that's normal.
    Posted by elsadog

    ok,but how many hands are we talking here?

    i dont see set over set everyday,but it has to happen to someone...

    ok suppose u hit a set of 5 s on the flop

    aa is still 10% to hit by the river..

    thats 1 in 10...


    so for every set, there is a 10% chance someone will hit a higher set...

    if they have a poket pair in their hand..

    and it does happen live too



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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker : ok,but how many hands are we talking here? i dont see set over set everyday,but it has to happen to someone... ok suppose u hit a set of 5 s on the flop aa is still 10% to hit by the river.. thats 1 in 10... so for every set, there is a 10% chance someone will hit a higher set... if they have a poket pair in their hand.. and it does happen live too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3GZqdRPaWA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp8truZ71-o
    Posted by djblacke04
    Quoting maths and youtube extracts is pathetic. You can show an example of anything if you look hard enough. Frequency is the point and it's just too frequent. Action hands like this are on every table - just look at any table on the site and you will see them again and again. 

    I know you've played this game a long time, but have you forgotten what poker should be like? Sounds to me like you've been conditioned by over exposure DJ. Anything can and will happen in poker but that doesn't mean we should be seeing it in every game. 
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker : Quoting maths and youtube extracts is pathetic. You can show an example of anything if you look hard enough. Frequency is the point and it's just too frequent. Action hands like this are on every table - just look at any table on the site and you will see them again and again.  I know you've played this game a long time, but have you forgotten what poker should be like? Sounds to me like you've been conditioned by over exposure DJ. Anything can and will happen in poker but that doesn't mean we should be seeing it in every game. 
    Posted by elsadog

    Well ,its hardly every game is it?

    i think if you are looking for it, you will find it,like when you buy a red card and every car you see is a red car...

    PMA my friend PMA..

    Positive Mental Attitude...

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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited February 2011
    I quite enjoyed Phil Ivey's public comment on it.

    He said you should never fold a set fearing your opponent has a higher set on a dry board.  The odds are low enough to make the fold ridiculous in the long term profit and loss scheme of things.

    However, you do seem to have to keep oversets and quads firmly in your mind while playing here.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited February 2011
    Standard.
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited February 2011


    Hows about F/H over F/H over F/H, level one in a ten seater on here?

    Another one for DJ and Doh to chew over.....

    A winning player on here (we shall just call him 'the golden one') keeps getting it in bad and binking cards on turn or river when behind. Are some of the regs on here now getting wise to the 'expected' boards now on Sky Poker??
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited February 2011

    No, Mick is just a lucky B*****d ! ;)


    Build an image, and hold your nerve.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    gilber1955 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £33.17
    spdbrkr Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £28.48
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • A
    		     
    LUCKYSAMMI Fold     
    DOHHHHHHH Raise  £0.80 £1.10 £27.59
    e3l0e Call  £0.80 £1.90 £32.19
    gilber1955 Fold     
    spdbrkr Fold     
    Flop
       
    • A
    • Q
    • 3
    		     
    DOHHHHHHH Check     
    e3l0e Bet  £1.90 £3.80 £30.29
    DOHHHHHHH Call  £1.90 £5.70 £25.69
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    DOHHHHHHH Check     
    e3l0e Bet  £5.70 £11.40 £24.59
    DOHHHHHHH Call  £5.70 £17.10 £19.99
    River
       
    • 2
    		     
    DOHHHHHHH Check     
    e3l0e Bet  £17.10 £34.20 £7.49
    DOHHHHHHH Call  £17.10 £51.30 £2.89
    e3l0e Show
    • 5
    • 6
    		   
    DOHHHHHHH Show
    • J
    • A
    		   
    DOHHHHHHH Win Two Pairs, Aces and Queens £49.50  £52.39
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2011
    Holding my nerve has never been a problem. Reading an opponent is something I've been doing for a while now. Being continually outdrawn and having the dominant hand beaten time after time as happens on Sky is something I can't get used to.

    Most competent players can make good calls and hold their nerve. Believe it or not even I did it a number of times last night.........


    PokerStars Game #57624443294: Tournament #406010577, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2011/02/13 23:35:58 WET [2011/02/13 18:35:58 ET]
    Table '406010577 593' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: Toxa211 (2882 in chips) 
    Seat 2: Vingtcent (6877 in chips) 
    Seat 3: Tigak (4086 in chips) 
    Seat 4: ProXimaVez (4260 in chips) 
    Seat 5: nb1012 (12386 in chips) 
    Seat 6: hero (10227 in chips) 
    Seat 7: Quality Tilt (9506 in chips) 
    Seat 8: dnallvitande (13778 in chips) 
    Seat 9: shellby woo (15427 in chips) 
    Toxa211: posts the ante 50
    Vingtcent: posts the ante 50
    Tigak: posts the ante 50
    ProXimaVez: posts the ante 50
    nb1012: posts the ante 50
    hero: posts the ante 50
    Quality Tilt: posts the ante 50
    dnallvitande: posts the ante 50
    shellby woo: posts the ante 50
    hero: posts small blind 200
    Quality Tilt: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hero [Ts Ks]
    dnallvitande: folds 
    shellby woo: calls 400
    Toxa211: folds 
    Vingtcent: folds 
    Tigak: folds 
    ProXimaVez: folds 
    nb1012: folds 
    hero: calls 200
    Quality Tilt: checks 
    *** FLOP *** [9h 2s Tc]
    hero: bets 800
    Quality Tilt: calls 800
    shellby woo: calls 800
    *** TURN *** [9h 2s Tc] [9d]
    hero: checks 
    Quality Tilt: checks 
    shellby woo: bets 1200
    hero: calls 1200
    Quality Tilt: calls 1200
    *** RIVER *** [9h 2s Tc 9d] [3h]
    hero: checks 
    Quality Tilt: checks 
    shellby woo: bets 3650
    hero: calls 3650
    Quality Tilt: folds 
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    shellby woo: shows [4c 4d] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
    hero: shows [Ts Ks] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
    hero collected 14950 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 14950 | Rake 0 
    Board [9h 2s Tc 9d 3h]
    Seat 1: Toxa211 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Vingtcent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Tigak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ProXimaVez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: nb1012 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: hero (small blind) showed [Ts Ks] and won (14950) with two pair, Tens and Nines
    Seat 7: Quality Tilt (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 8: dnallvitande folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: shellby woo showed [4c 4d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fours



    PokerStars Game #57627785627: Tournament #406010577, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2011/02/14 0:45:20 WET [2011/02/13 19:45:20 ET]
    Table '406010577 620' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: ChristaBorg (16895 in chips) 
    Seat 2: FouTight (40422 in chips) 
    Seat 3: icufish (13975 in chips) 
    Seat 4: bsilvani1 (63322 in chips) 
    Seat 5: pokerstarz74 (17893 in chips) 
    Seat 6: hero (27924 in chips) 
    Seat 7: jasanez (40379 in chips) 
    Seat 8: PrinceAndrew (30177 in chips) 
    Seat 9: stackinkids (46422 in chips) 
    ChristaBorg: posts the ante 100
    FouTight: posts the ante 100
    icufish: posts the ante 100
    bsilvani1: posts the ante 100
    pokerstarz74: posts the ante 100
    hero: posts the ante 100
    jasanez: posts the ante 100
    PrinceAndrew: posts the ante 100
    stackinkids: posts the ante 100
    pokerstarz74: posts small blind 400
    hero: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hero [3c Ac]
    jasanez: folds 
    PrinceAndrew: folds 
    stackinkids: folds 
    ChristaBorg: folds 
    FouTight: folds 
    icufish: raises 800 to 1600
    bsilvani1: folds 
    pokerstarz74: folds 
    hero: calls 800
    *** FLOP *** [7c 4h 4c]
    hero: checks 
    icufish: bets 1125
    hero: calls 1125
    *** TURN *** [7c 4h 4c] [Ad]
    hero: bets 2400
    icufish: raises 8750 to 11150 and is all-in
    hero: calls 8750
    *** RIVER *** [7c 4h 4c Ad] [9h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    hero: shows [3c Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
    icufish: shows [9c Jc] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
    jasanez is disconnected 
    hero collected 29050 from pot
    icufish finished the tournament in 694th place and received $103.65.

    .......................... It's no big deal just standard, decent, play.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA
    edited February 2011
    it just looks like people make the mistake of trying to bluff u on Stars, maybe they've learn't not to on Sky!
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited February 2011

    Haha nice thread,all i wanna know is WHY does the piggin board keep on flopping '3 of the sme suit' ON THE FLOP? What are the rough odds of this?

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  • salazarsalazar
    edited February 2011
    I have to admit that in 5 yrs of playing poker on pretty much every site out there i have had the most crazy outdraws on here in the last 2 months. Hands where the opponent needed miricle, miricle to win and the money going in when i'm 95% fav to win. I lost 2 out of 2 on the same day. unreal and i mean unreal. 

    yes, bad beats happen, 30% shots get there now and again, miricles do not get there twice in a session. well i take that back, they do on here
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: sets over sets too often. This is why im leaving sky poker:
    I have to admit that in 5 yrs of playing poker on pretty much every site out there i have had the most crazy outdraws on here in the last 2 months. Hands where the opponent needed miricle, miricle to win and the money going in when i'm 95% fav to win. I lost 2 out of 2 on the same day. unreal and i mean unreal.  yes, bad beats happen, 30% shots get there now and again, miricles do not get there twice in a session. well i take that back, they do on here
    Posted by salazar

    This is the point. 

    Yes they do happen, everywhere. 

    On here they are just too frequent.

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