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edited September 2009 in Poker Chat
hi sky just wondering if it would be possible if you could allow players to have multi accounts but only can play one at any time
       thanks lucky
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  • edited September 2009
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    hi sky just wondering if it would be possible if you could allow players to have multi accounts but only can play one at any time        thanks lucky
    Posted by lucky77777


       hi lucky If you mean like 1 for sports betting  & 1 for poker  i would deffo like that as at the moment i have 2 bankrolls running on 1 account for footy bets & poker its been a nightmare as now each month 1 do me breakdown outlay/return/prof-loss etc i wonder would Sky Consider that it would be an easier way of me keeping Poker & Sports Betting seperate less accounting more playing & betting

       dtw

       ps have sorted 8 selections for midweek (tues & wed ) will post them on shed tomorrow m8)
  • edited September 2009
    Hi Guys,

    i'm afraid it goes against our site rules for any customers to play under 2 separate accounts. we have a dedicated fraud team whose job it is to investigate and close down any multiple accounts they find.

    thanks for being understanding everyone.

    Rich
  • edited September 2009
    hi rich well tikay has admitted having two accounts and plays both of them if its alright for one it should be alright for all to be absolutly fair
  • edited September 2009
    Hey Lucky,

    tikay is an exception to the rule i'm afraid. as he openly explains he plays under 2 accounts... 1 under his role as a sky employee and the other is his personal account. unfortunately we simply can't allow customers to play under 2 separate accounts.

    thanks again,

    Rich
  • edited September 2009
    that really dont make sense
  • edited September 2009

    Tikay has a work account, which sky obviously pay for his PTP tourns etc... and then his own personal account in which he puts his own money into... quite straight forward...

  • edited September 2009
    hi rich any jobs going please
  • edited September 2009
    Hey Lucky,

    thanks for your post. if you'd like to find a job at sky take a look at this site here

    there you can fill in your application details and search all the opportunities available.

    all the best

    Rich
  • edited September 2009
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    hi rich well tikay has admitted having two accounts and plays both of them if its alright for one it should be alright for all to be absolutly fair
    Posted by lucky77777
    Hi Lucky,

    I did not "admit it", I made people aware of it, from Day One. "admit it" implies I had done something wrong. I have not.

    As I have explained many times - hundreds of times, I'd say - I have 2 Accounts - TIKAY10" & "tikay1".

    "TIKAY10" is funded by Sky Poker, it's not my money, & I use it on PTP & T-o-T nights only. "tikay1" is my own personal Accounts, I play on it most nights, & I fund it.

    I don't think too many players are going to be duped by my two Accounts - the name "tikay" is the clue.

    Multi-Accounting for the purposes of deceit &/or obfuscation is cheating, & is not permirtted on ANY well-run Online Poker Site. It happens - yes - but make no mistake, it's cheating.

    Players caught Multi-Accounting on this, indeed most Sites, face having their Accounts Frozen, &, potentially, the Money may be with-held.

    A guy named Mark Telscher will tell you all about the penalties of Multi-Accounting. He won the Sunday Millioin once, & his "winnings" were with-held as it was alleged he was Multi-Accounting.

    Sky Poker are now particularly vigilant as to Multi-Accounts, & there have been several instances recently where Players have paid the price for this. And quite right, too.
  • edited September 2009
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    hi rich well tikay has admitted having two accounts and plays both of them if its alright for one it should be alright for all to be absolutly fair
    Posted by lucky77777
    What possible fair reason could you have for wanting two Accounts?

    The Rule is there for a good reason - to make playing on the Site fair for all Players.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : What possible fair reason could you have for wanting two Accounts? The Rule is there for a good reason - to make playing on the Site fair for all Players.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I would imagine to take advantage of the welcome bonus.

    It is unfair that the rakeback offerered on the welcome bonus is far greater than on the cash for points promo IMO.
  • edited September 2009
    a well known sky player was on at least 2 occasions on the tv show confirmed as being male(name was given) yet for the last few months is now well known as being female,..strange.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : I would imagine to take advantage of the welcome bonus. It is unfair that the rakeback offerered on the welcome bonus is far greater than on the cash for points promo IMO.
    Posted by scotty77
    Well that would be Fraud.
  • edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: accounts:
    In Response to Re: accounts : I would imagine to take advantage of the welcome bonus. It is unfair that the rakeback offerered on the welcome bonus is far greater than on the cash for points promo IMO.
    Posted by scotty77
    Presumably the Welcome Bonus is per player not per account, therefore a player creating a 2nd account to get a 2nd chance at the Welcome Bonus would be fraudulant (as they had their one and only go under their original/legitimate account) and certainly not a FAIR reason as TK alluded to.

    I can not think of ANY fair reason for regular customers to possess multiple accounts.
  • edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: accounts:
    In Response to Re: accounts : Well that would be Fraud.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Great minds ;)
  • edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: accounts:
    In Response to Re: accounts : Presumably the Welcome Bonus is per player not per account, therefor a player creating a 2nd account to get a 2nd chance at the Welcome Bonus would be fraudulant (as they had their one and only go under their original/legitimate account) and certainly not a FAIR reason as TK alluded to. I can not think of ANY fair reason for regular customers to possess multiple accounts.
    Posted by Grimstar30
    The welcome bonus was only introduced around a year ago, meaning that players who had been here from the start never had the opportunity to achieve it.

    And FWIW back in the old days you could only register one debit/creidt card to your account, and the customer service people told me to open a new account each time so for about a year I had 3!

    Sky did close them tho when they introduced their new payment system tho.
  • edited September 2009
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    a well known sky player was on at least 2 occasions on the tv show confirmed as being male(name was given) yet for the last few months is now well known as being female,..strange.
    Posted by LONGPLAY
    If you suspect something is amiss or improper, as you suggest above, you should report it to Customer Support immediately.

    Male players using "female" aliases, & vice-versa, however, is perfectly acceptable, as Male & Femals players are equal in ability, so no advantage is being gained.
  • edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: accounts:
    In Response to Re: accounts : The welcome bonus was only introduced around a year ago, meaning that players who had been here from the start never had the opportunity to achieve it. And FWIW back in the old days you could only register one debit/creidt card to your account, and the customer service people told me to open a new account each time so for about a year I had 3! Sky did close them tho when they introduced their new payment system tho.
    Posted by scotty77
    Sorry Scotty, but your logic-train confuses me.

    The Welcome Bonus was introduced after a certain period of time, but you are suggesting that means all Players who joined earlier are entitled to it. That kite will never fly!

    If Tesco drop the price of a pound of eggs this week, we can't go there & ask them to refund the more expensive price we paid last week!

    There are no acceptable reasons for Multi-Accounting.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : Sorry Scotty, but your logic-train confuses me. The Welcome Bonus was introduced after a certain period of time, but you are suggesting that means all Players who joined earlier are entitled to it. That kite will never fly! If Tesco drop the price of a pound of eggs this week, we can't go there & ask them to refund the more expensive price we paid last week! There are no acceptable reasons for Multi-Accounting.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I agree completely multi accounting is bang out of order. good post Tikay10 (or should that be Tikay1..................)

    ;-p lol
  • edited September 2009
    In Response to Re: accounts:
    In Response to Re: accounts : The welcome bonus was only introduced around a year ago, meaning that players who had been here from the start never had the opportunity to achieve it. And FWIW back in the old days you could only register one debit/creidt card to your account, and the customer service people told me to open a new account each time so for about a year I had 3! Sky did close them tho when they introduced their new payment system tho.
    Posted by scotty77
    Hi mate, what does FWIW mean?

    for what its worth? ;)

    I suppose though its a case of market forces. Sky decided to introduce an offer that would only be available for new player from a certain date. In most industries offers like this are standard. For example in banking a new rate would be introduced for new account holders, but would not be retrospectively applied to existing account holders. In that case I do not think a customer would pretend to be someone they are not, for the purpose of creating a new bank account, thereby benefiting from the new introductory offer - in this example it would be clear that person would be committing fraud.

    Sometimes being an early adopter of something (in this case Sky Poker) does produce higher costs, but of course, you also had the fun of playing on Sky a lot longer than the new players. I am sure the standard of play has increased now, meaning it was perhaps easier for you to make a profit on here in the old days? What do you think?

    p.s. well done on all your live winnings recently.

    Dave
  • edited September 2009
    "I don't think too many players are going to be duped by my two Accounts - the name "tikay" is the clue. "

    That one provided a hearty chuckle TK. beautifully understated.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : I agree completely multi accounting is bang out of order. good post Tikay10 (or should that be Tikay1..................) ;-p lol
    Posted by dodgydaz
    You, Sir, will go far. If I catch you.

    The Thread needed a little humour - well done you.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : Hi mate, what does FWIW mean? for what its worth? ;) I suppose though its a case of market forces. Sky decided to introduce an offer that would only be available for new player from a certain date. In most industries offers like this are standard. For example in banking a new rate would be introduced for new account holders, but would not be retrospectively applied to existing account holders. In that case I do not think a customer would pretend to be someone they are not, for the purpose of creating a new bank account, thereby benefiting from the new introductory offer - in this example it would be clear that person would be committing fraud. Sometimes being an early adopter of something (in this case Sky Poker) does produce higher costs, but of course, you also had the fun of playing on Sky a lot longer than the new players. I am sure the standard of play has increased now, meaning it was perhaps easier for you to make a profit on here in the old days? What do you think? p.s. well done on all your live winnings recently. Dave
    Posted by Grimstar30
    A well thought out response, Dave.

    Of course Tikay is right on this one and there's another sporting reason why having multiple accounts shouldn't be allowed. When you go to your local card room, you might play against Joe Bloggs and build up a certain history with him. You look for tells, note his betting patterns, sizes, the way he does all of these things and more. 

    Now imagine how you'd feel if Joe Bloggs turned up but looked entirely different and is not recognisable. He's changed his name and appearance entrirely. He's still got all of his knowledge on you but you couldn't apply any of yours to him. Frustrating, huh?

    In conclusion: What Tikay said.
  • edited September 2009
    I just think that there should have been parity offered for the very first month that the bonus was introduced.  That would mean that everyone who had signed upto Sky in the year and a half before, and loyally paid rake during that time, would have the opportunity to take advantage of it as well.

    Sky poker has only got to where it is now due to the loyal support of a core group of players, and this has never been appropriatley recognised as such.

    The cash for points promo is a very good step forward, however anyone who is knowledgeable of the poker world realises that the percentage offered is poor.

    But whatever I was just suggesting that trying to take advantage of the welcome bonus is one reason why someone would want to multi-account. 

    Sky offers an instant cash bonus (well 375 points so as good as) for new players, but the it also offers £500 for 7.5k poker points.  This is a far, far greater rate than you will get at cash for points so in effect new players get 2 welcome bonuses.


  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : A well thought out response, Dave. Of course Tikay is right on this one and there's another sporting reason why having multiple accounts shouldn't be allowed. When you go to your local card room, you might play against Joe Bloggs and build up a certain history with him. You look for tells, note his betting patterns, sizes, the way he does all of these things and more.  Now imagine how you'd feel if Joe Bloggs turned up but looked entirely different and is not recognisable. He's changed his name and appearance entrirely. He's still got all of his knowledge on you but you couldn't apply any of yours to him. Frustrating, huh? In conclusion: What Tikay said.
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    Thanks Dave, got to put my brain to use while inbetween jobs!!

    What you wrote reminds me of the WSOP, last year I think? didn't one of the famous players dress up in makeup etc as an old man? I assume he had the same name though (phil laak?!)

    I am sure Alan (my financee dave - long story ask TK!)  wishes I could change my appearance, generally, not just at the tables ;)

    Dave
  • edited September 2009
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    I just think that there should have been parity offered for the very first month that the bonus was introduced.  That would mean that everyone who had signed upto Sky in the year and a half before, and loyally paid rake during that time, would have the opportunity to take advantage of it as well. Sky poker has only got to where it is now due to the loyal support of a core group of players, and this has never been appropriatley recognised as such. The cash for points promo is a very good step forward, however anyone who is knowledgeable of the poker world realises that the percentage offered is poor. But whatever I was just suggesting that trying to take advantage of the welcome bonus is one reason why someone would want to multi-account.  Sky offers an instant cash bonus (well 375 points so as good as) for new players, but the it also offers £500 for 7.5k poker points.  This is a far, far greater rate than you will get at cash for points so in effect new players get 2 welcome bonuses.
    Posted by scotty77
    ...and that would be fraudelent.

    Sorry Scotty, we ain't gonna have a meeting of minds here. The prices of Products, Services & Commodities rise & fall, all the time. We can't buy last week's products at this week's prices, or vice-versa, the free economy does not work that way - anywhere.

    To open Multi-Accounts to get round this is plain wrong.

    I don't expect any Service Provider, be it a Poker Site or a bicycle Shop to short-change me, or diddle me. In return, I don't think we should try & diddle them.
  • edited September 2009
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    In Response to Re: accounts : Thanks Dave, got to put my brain to use while inbetween jobs!! What you wrote reminds me of the WSOP, last year I think? didn't one of the famous players dress up in makeup etc as an old man? I assume he had the same name though (phil laak?!) I am sure Alan (my financee dave - long story ask TK!)  wishes I could change my appearance, generally, not just at the tables ;) Dave
    Posted by Grimstar30
    p.s. Dave, TK has a percentage of Alan at the next SKUPT tour event. Yes this is mucky lol
  • edited September 2009
    Ok well we agree to disagree tikay.  Its not even that much but I just think that there should have been an opportunity for everyone to take advantage of it.  I think it came out in Sept, last year and a friend of min registerested one day before Sky introduced this promotion, and they still wouldn't give it to him even tho he emailed them.


  • edited September 2009
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    Ok well we agree to disagree tikay.  Its not even that much but I just think that there should have been an opportunity for everyone to take advantage of it.  I think it came out in Sept, last year and a friend of min registerested one day before Sky introduced this promotion, and they still wouldn't give it to him even tho he emailed them.
    Posted by scotty77
    Yes, we'll agree to disagree.

    If Tesco put the price of Baked Beans up this week, do you really think they will allow you to buy them at last week's price, because you are a loyal customer? They appreciate your loyalty, they might even liike you, but they ain't gonna do that anytime soon.

    What they will do is keep fettling their Product prices/promotions to keep it competitive, to the benefit of everyone - the Players, & the Site.
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