Beaneh, please put my mind at rest...

FlashFlush

Good fold???

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
beaneh	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£136.35
donsharp11	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£18.25
	Your hole cards	K A
FlashFlush	Raise		£1.75	£2.50	£88.76
beaneh	Raise		£5.25	£7.75	£131.10
donsharp11	Fold
FlashFlush	Call		£3.75	£11.50	£85.01
Flop
		J K 8
beaneh	Bet		£6.00	£17.50	£125.10
FlashFlush	Call		£6.00	£23.50	£79.01
Turn
		Q
beaneh	Bet		£14.00	£37.50	£111.10
FlashFlush	Fold
beaneh	Muck
beaneh	Win		£22.60		£133.70
beaneh	Return		£14.00	£0.90	£147.70

tiote22

Turn fold is fine as it looks like he is trying to set up a pot sized river shove. Basically if you call turn you have to call river. I would 4bet pre though.

iBLUFF

from the way the betting goes imo i say he has JJ

tiote22

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from the way the betting goes imo i say he has JJ
Posted by iBLUFF

Although there is a chance that TitBeam does actually have JJ, trying to put players on one specific hand rather than a range of hands, (bluffs, semi bluffs, thin value, pure value) is probably a pretty big leak.

pryce6

Definitely 4-bet pre with the intention of getting it in.

LOL_RAISE

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest...:

Definitely 4-bet pre with the intention of getting it in.
Posted by pryce6

i think this is kinda bad tbh with flashflush's image.


beanehs betsizing is bad on the turn, what a noob

pryce6

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In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : i think this is kinda bad tbh with flashflush's image. beanehs betsizing is bad on the turn, what a noob
Posted by LOL_RAISE

FF didn't include his own image in the post

tiote22

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In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : i think this is kinda bad tbh with flashflush's image. beanehs betsizing is bad on the turn, what a noob
Posted by LOL_RAISE

I disagree, I think its v.good actually. Being able to pot jam and polarise on river is alot better than betting medium three times and giving somebody good odds to call on the river as we cna never be balanced here and against thinking opponents we get raped.

zing

it will not be a pot river shove at all

also, you just grouped together a load of "poker terms" and wrote total gibberish

LOL_RAISE

on the river the pot will be 51 with 65 left in the stack

beaneh

hh no?

tiote22

Oh, apologies, never seen HH like the ones on Sky. Usually they are pretty simple to understand, was thinking there would be $10 more than there was. Don't particuarly like the bet size, but small on turn, big on river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>medium on turn, medium on river against a good player AINEC.

tiote22

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest...:

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : I disagree, I think its v.good actually. Being able to pot jam and polarise on river is alot better than betting medium three times and giving somebody good odds to call on the river as we cna never be balanced here and against thinking opponents we get raped.
Posted by tiote22

Really? What dont you understand?

beaneh

Tiote who are you?

beaneh

oh and a couple of things people, this hand was played 3 handed on a PL table.

FlashFlush

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beaneh

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Posted by FlashFlush

Do you mind if I just dont answer?

cos I could give you a doh style answer about exact hand ranges this hand or answer in general/proper/long run terms lol.

DOHHHHHHH

Well it might have been a good fold this time, and a bad fold the next time.

The question in the o.p asks if it was a good fold this time, so was it?

i.e, did you have him beat, or not?

FlashFlush

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In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : Do you mind if I just dont answer? cos I could give you a doh style answer about exact hand ranges this hand or answer in general/proper/long run terms lol.
Posted by beaneh

zzzz Just tell me what hand you had ;-) ... In my opinion, you are obv playing like a million tables and I doubt you are getting fruity just because its 3 handed. I can't see what I'm beating TBH with your bet sizing. Maybe AK for a split?

beaneh

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Well it might have been a good fold this time, and a bad fold the next time. The question in the o.p asks if it was a good fold this time, so was it? i.e, did you have him beat, or not?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

if FF wants to be a pro grindy thing then worrying about this time is as usual dumb and just the long term matters.

I had a sooted hand. Think I was 24 tabling at the time but that shouldn't really affect much.

In general 3 handed folding top top vs me in a 3 bet pot is probably an awful awful idea. Surely you flat the 3b pre so as to find these sort of spots?

FlashFlush

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest...:

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : if FF wants to be a pro grindy thing then worrying about this time is as usual dumb and just the long term matters. I had a sooted hand. Think I was 24 tabling at the time but that shouldn't really affect much. In general 3 handed folding top top vs me in a 3 bet pot is probably an awful awful idea. Surely you flat the 3b pre so as to find these sort of spots?
Posted by beaneh

Stop grooming me to give you all my buyins ;-)

beaneh

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In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : Stop grooming me to give you all my buyins ;-)
Posted by FlashFlush

no really though, when you flat AK it's because I can have worse Ax and worse Kx in my range and you get ze values whehn you frop an ace or king......

you can't flat strong to trap and then fold when you hit. My range here is wider than AA/2pr+, the weaker a range the more likely I am to be bluffing regularly and in a 3 handed 3 bet pot vs a btn opener this is one of dem times lol.

tiote22

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In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : Really? What dont you understand?
Posted by tiote22

Why?

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest...:

In Response to Re: Beaneh, please put my mind at rest... : no really though, when you flat AK it's because I can have worse Ax and worse Kx in my range and you get ze values whehn you frop an ace or king...... you can't flat strong to trap and then fold when you hit. My range here is wider than AA/2pr+, the weaker a range the more likely I am to be bluffing regularly and in a 3 handed 3 bet pot vs a btn opener this is one of dem times lol.
Posted by beaneh

u can pull of a bluff in this spot while 24 tabling? you are one sik man innit!

it was obv a semi-bluff tho you had 2 diamonds yeh. now lets guess the cards...

N1CK

Pretty GAY fold imo