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Buy in and the law

edited February 2011 in Poker Chat
Looking to have a tournament in my local pub and wondered how much would be allowed as a buy in?
Looking to set it at £15 with no charge for entering as the landlord is happy just to have the extra people in the pub(probably about 20)
Will the rozzers be bursting the door and arresting us for running an illegal game and sending us down or are they likely to not bother?

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  • edited February 2011
    the way i understand it, is that with out a gaming liscience, a prize pool of £250 is allowed for the evening. saying that we had one last week with 2k, but will deney everything if questioned!!
  • edited February 2011


      Legally in a public house each person is permitted to pay 5 pounds to play poker. However the maximum allowed to be played for is 100 pounds over a 24 hr period. In other words you can legally run a 20 man tournament i.e. 20 times 5 equals 100.
      This is for public houses but the total goes up to 250 pounds in clubs i think.
       Also, all monies paid by the players MUST be paid out as the prize. The venue or organisers cannot charge a rake.
      The only way to increase these amounts is by running the tournament as a charity event and if you check out the gambling commission website you will find all the info there.
      Having said all that, provided you keep it quiet you can do pretty much what you like. But a good tip is to have the maximum allowed by law in a pint pot behind the bar and any additional funds hidden, then if by some stroke of extreme bad luck the pub is raided you are seen to be sqeaky clean.
      Have fun and TID.
  • edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law:
      Legally in a public house each person is permitted to pay 5 pounds to play poker. However the maximum allowed to be played for is 100 pounds over a 24 hr period. In other words you can legally run a 20 man tournament i.e. 20 times 5 equals 100.   This is for public houses but the total goes up to 250 pounds in clubs i think.    Also, all monies paid by the players MUST be paid out as the prize. The venue or organisers cannot charge a rake.   The only way to increase these amounts is by running the tournament as a charity event and if you check out the gambling commission website you will find all the info there.   Having said all that, provided you keep it quiet you can do pretty much what you like. But a good tip is to have the maximum allowed by law in a pint pot behind the bar and any additional funds hidden, then if by some stroke of extreme bad luck the pub is raided you are seen to be sqeaky clean.   Have fun and TID.
    Posted by pomfrittes
    This

    I know in a number of my venues they play 10p/20p cash after the league game as finnished. Each person Buys in for their stated amount and then the money is kept somewhere.

    As myself and the league do not deal with this for obvious reasons ive only bought in a couple of times and even i have no idea where the money is kept.
  • edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law:
      Legally in a public house each person is permitted to pay 5 pounds to play poker. However the maximum allowed to be played for is 100 pounds over a 24 hr period. In other words you can legally run a 20 man tournament i.e. 20 times 5 equals 100.   This is for public houses but the total goes up to 250 pounds in clubs i think.    Also, all monies paid by the players MUST be paid out as the prize. The venue or organisers cannot charge a rake.   The only way to increase these amounts is by running the tournament as a charity event and if you check out the gambling commission website you will find all the info there.   Having said all that, provided you keep it quiet you can do pretty much what you like. But a good tip is to have the maximum allowed by law in a pint pot behind the bar and any additional funds hidden, then if by some stroke of extreme bad luck the pub is raided you are seen to be sqeaky clean.   Have fun and TID.
    Posted by pomfrittes
    Yea but what are the rules in English pubs?   ;)

    If a boozer gets raided I'm sure the pigs will have bigger fish to fry than a 15 squid a man illegal poker game.
  • edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law:
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law : Yea but what are the rules in English pubs?   ;) If a boozer gets raided I'm sure the pigs will have bigger fish to fry than a 15 squid a man illegal poker game.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    They just gather the evidence, it gets referred to the gambling commission who then deal with it i believe.
  • edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law:
    In Response to Re: Buy in and the law : Yea but what are the rules in English pubs?   ;) If a boozer gets raided I'm sure the pigs will have bigger fish to fry than a 15 squid a man illegal poker game.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Are you kidding?Why would they deal with a big fish,that might in
    some way be dangerous when they could just hassle the little guy
    for having a bit of harmless fun.
    Easy option FTW.
  • edited February 2011
    In my local rileys snooker club its a £10 buy in, but as we normally get over 30 players the tournament director has to whittle it down to £250 prize money  and then goes round refunding everone with a bit of change
  • edited February 2011
    The legal aspect has been covered, you're not likely to have problems anyway because it's such a low priority.

    The main thing you should probably take into account is who else offers poker in the vicinity. If there is a licensed casino offering poker in the neighbourhood then you should probably stick to the letter of the law as they are the most likely source of any trouble with the law you might get.
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