could I play this different to get a fold?

jugglegeek

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jugglegeek	Small blind		50.00	50.00	3785.00
JEFFD234	Big blind		100.00	150.00	2820.00
	Your hole cards	Q 9
TORTUS007	Fold
hoyski	Fold
basher365	Fold
jugglegeek	Raise		150.00	300.00	3635.00
JEFFD234	Call		100.00	400.00	2720.00
Flop
		5 8 9
jugglegeek	Check
JEFFD234	Check
Turn
		9
jugglegeek	Check
JEFFD234	Check
River
		7
jugglegeek	Bet		400.00	800.00	3235.00
JEFFD234	All-in		2720.00	3520.00	0.00
jugglegeek	Fold
JEFFD234	Muck
JEFFD234	Win		1200.00		1200.00
JEFFD234	Return		2320.00	0.00	3520.00

jugglegeek

In Response to could I play this different to get a fold?:

Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance jugglegeek Small blind   50.00 50.00 3785.00 JEFFD234 Big blind   100.00 150.00 2820.00   Your hole cards Q 9       TORTUS007 Fold         hoyski Fold         basher365 Fold         jugglegeek Raise   150.00 300.00 3635.00 JEFFD234 Call   100.00 400.00 2720.00 Flop     5 8 9       jugglegeek Check         JEFFD234 Check         Turn     9       jugglegeek Check         JEFFD234 Check         River     7       jugglegeek Bet   400.00 800.00 3235.00 JEFFD234 All-in   2720.00 3520.00 0.00 jugglegeek Fold         JEFFD234 Muck         JEFFD234 Win   1200.00   1200.00 JEFFD234 Return   2320.00 0.00 3520.00
Posted by jugglegeek

Started off by trying to steal the blinds and ended up in a bit of a spot. Despite making trips I felt sure, the way this guy played the hand he was drawing to the straight or making out that he was drawing when he already had it. When he jams the river after the 7 comes I'm sure if he didn't already have the straight, he has it now so I fold.

Correct decision?

CLIOKID

Don't min-raise pre out of position with Q9 suited.

Make it 3x or fold.

Bet flop. You've hit top pair!

Bet turn. You've hit trips!

Why wait till there is a one card straight on the board to make a bet?

goodylad21

You played this hand bad tbf :

1. Should of raised more pre, doubling the blind achieves nothing if trying to steel his BB

2. You hit a very good flop for your hand, should be betting 3/4 pot on the flop, why the check ??

3. When you hit trips on the turn you should be betting out at least 2/3 of the pot.

If you had played it this way the hand would of been over way before the river, hence no decision !!

Ps As played deffo fold river

PPs Clio beat me too it, God damn !!

christiann

If your just trying to steal the blinds then you need to be raising bigger, he's gonna call you really wide for so little. You should then be leading alot of flops but especially this one, it's one of the better flops for your hand obviously and you need to protect by betting, you cant be worried that he's flopped a straight yet because it's very unlikely and you'd have to put him on 67 specifically which means your narrowing down his range far to much..and by not betting you never find out how strong he is.

As played, fold, he's hardly ever bluff shoving here.

penguin7

The reason you are asking this question now is because you didnt ask it during the hand ! What were you looking to acheive by checking the flop ? You should have been fairly confident that you were ahead with few hands to fear. Your good preflop bet gave you a perfect opportunity to follow up with a strong bet on that flop, and apart from building the pot would have given you information. If he had flopped the straight he would more than likely reraised to protect his hand on a dangerous board, similarly if he had A9.

If he had the gutshot he would  have possibly called. The 9 on the turn was perfect for you, and having built the pot, you would have then been in a position to shove with little to worry about. Even in the worst scenario of him slowplaying a flopped straight, you still had loads of outs for a house. He couldnt have called with a gutshot with only the river to come.

Your play looked weak throughout,checking two streets, and even a potsized bet on the river was unconvincing. He could easily have shoved with nothing, but by then you couldnt call.

Pretty poor play IMO

gl m8

unknown_username

In Response to Re: could I play this different to get a fold?:

Don't min-raise pre out of position with Q9 suited. Make it 3x or fold. Bet flop. You've hit top pair! Bet turn. You've hit trips! Why wait till there is a one card straight on the board to make a bet?
Posted by CLIOKID

Pretty much all you need to know! Good post CLIOKID.

Dudeskin8

Snap fold pre.

CLIOKID

In Response to Re: could I play this different to get a fold?:

Snap fold pre.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Nit!!

pod1

dont mind the call pre to be far but if you are going to play that bigger range then you got to play it strong, post flop,turn  is where you have to get the chips in.  phil

scotty77

pre is fine.

folding is bad. Q9red BvB is massive

min raise or 3x is ok.

bet flop.  bet turn.  as plaued fold river.