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scotty77scotty77
edited March 2011 in Poker Chat
Why was my thread about the takeover of Sky Pokers parent company removed.

What rule did it break.

I was simply asking about possible new avenues for Sky Poker.  How does that not fit in with general poker chat.

Why was I not emailed/PM'd with regards to this (the one time I've had a thread removed before, someone from Sky has told me why).

Was this removed by a Sky employee or one of the new volunteer mods.

Thank you.
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited March 2011
    from Sky Daves rules and guidelines thread at the top

    * Pornographic, vulgar or obviously offensive material.     DID NOT BREAK THAT
    * Defamatory, hateful, potentially libellous posts or those that seek to promote illegal activity.  OR THAT
    * Posts which seek to discriminate on the grounds of sex, race, ethnicity or religion. OR THAT
    * Unsolicited spam, including using the Sky Poker PM service for commercial spamming purposes. OR THAT

    Flaming OR THAT
    Trolling  OR THAT
    Links  OR THAT

    Which board to post on?  As I stated above, this was a simple discussion about new opportunities for Sky Poker, so general poker chat is fine IMO

    Duplicate Accounts I did not break this
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    In Response to FAO Mods:
    Why was my thread about the takeover of Sky Pokers parent company removed. What rule did it break. I was simply asking about possible new avenues for Sky Poker.  How does that not fit in with general poker chat. Why was I not emailed/PM'd with regards to this (the one time I've had a thread removed before, someone from Sky has told me why). Was this removed by a Sky employee or one of the new volunteer mods. Thank you.
    Posted by scotty77
    Good question - maybe a conflict of consistency in the interpretation of the rules?

    Would like to have read what you wrote Scotty - interesting bit of news imo
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to FAO Mods : Good question - maybe a conflict of consistency in the interpretation of the rules? Would like to have read what you wrote Scotty - interesting bit of news imo
    Posted by dylan12

    It was a three line opening post, with about 4 replies, on how the parent companies new ownership would affect the Sky Poker with regards to international expansion.

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  • TRIP5TRIP5
    edited March 2011
    Also deleted was my happy St. David's Day thread that was moved to the shed and then deleted...can't see how a happy St. David's Day thread would possibly need to be deleted...I'm not on line tonight but would love some clarification if possible..

    The thread title was Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant

    Cheers

    xx
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Also deleted was my happy St. David's Day thread that was moved to the shed and then deleted...can't see how a happy St. David's Day thread would possibly need to be deleted...I'm not on line tonight but would love some clarification if possible.. The thread title was Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant Cheers xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    I love you Irene - Great thread title!! x
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID
    edited March 2011
    Welcome to Ruperts world.

    ;)


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Also deleted was my happy St. David's Day thread that was moved to the shed and then deleted...can't see how a happy St. David's Day thread would possibly need to be deleted...I'm not on line tonight but would love some clarification if possible.. The thread title was Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant Cheers xx
    Posted by TRIP5

    Surely deleting this post contravenes this rule - 

    * Posts which seek to discriminate on the grounds of sex, race, ethnicity or religion.

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  • MachkaMachka
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : It was a three line opening post, with about 4 replies, on how the parent companies new ownership would affect the Sky Poker with regards to international expansion.
    Posted by scotty77
    Wasn't me guv.  Didn't even see it.

    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Also deleted was my happy St. David's Day thread that was moved to the shed and then deleted...can't see how a happy St. David's Day thread would possibly need to be deleted...I'm not on line tonight but would love some clarification if possible.. The thread title was Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant Cheers xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    Obviously posting something Welsh is asking for it. ;-)

    Hopefully someone will be along to answer these questions seriously at some point though.
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  • scouse_redscouse_red
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Wasn't me guv.  Didn't even see it. In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Obviously posting something Welsh is asking for it. ;-) Hopefully someone will be along to answer these questions seriously at some point though.
    Posted by Machka
    Wouldn't hold your breath

    By the way Spornybol has left the Site for the very same reason posts deleted for no apparent reason and no communication as to why
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Also deleted was my happy St. David's Day thread that was moved to the shed and then deleted...can't see how a happy St. David's Day thread would possibly need to be deleted...I'm not on line tonight but would love some clarification if possible.. The thread title was Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Sant Cheers xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    I read on the poker site somwhere, that all posts must be in English.
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  • JockBMWJockBMW
    edited March 2011
    Hi Guys,

    Like Machka I can't answer but I will find out for you.  I did see the thread, In fact I even posted on it.


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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    TY mods Machka and Jock for your responses so far - would be great if you guys could find out what is going on. The examples of threads being deleted atm does seem wrong.
    IMO it doesn't matter who deleted them (as in no need to name and shame etc) but it does matter that there is obviously confusion to what threads need deleting seeing that Jock had read and posted on Scotty's thread and seen nothing wrong with it but another mod found the need to delete it!! 
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  • Mod_KiwiniMod_Kiwini
    edited March 2011
    Hi guys,  I don't know about Scottys thread as I didn't see that one, but I think its possible that the other thread may have been deleted as t wasn't in English. 

    I found this in the table chat rules, and it may also apply to the forum.

    Chat

    Our chat facility is designed to enhance your enjoyment of the Sky Poker experience. It gives you a chance to communicate with other players and have a few laughs. Please only use English to communicate, as this is the designated language of the public chat facility.

    Steve
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  • BananaDogBananaDog
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Surely deleting this post contravenes this rule -  * Posts which seek to discriminate on the grounds of sex, race, ethnicity or religion.
    Posted by elsadog
    +1
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Hi guys,  I don't know about Scottys thread as I didn't see that one, but I think its possible that the other thread may have been deleted as t wasn't in English.  I found this in the table chat rules, and it may also apply to the forum. Chat Our chat facility is designed to enhance your enjoyment of the Sky Poker experience. It gives you a chance to communicate with other players and have a few laughs. Please only use English to communicate, as this is the designated language of the public chat facility. Steve
    Posted by Mod_Kiwini
    If this is the case Mod_Kiwi, then I think common sense should be used. Trip5 should have been contacted and been given the opportunity to make it bilingual at least. With a Welsh thread title on a Welsh National Day I reckon that is pretty harmless tbh, I can fully understand why in chat english must always be spoken and 100% agree but there is no specific rule to say no Welsh allowed in the forum - I my self have posted in Welsh on the forum in the past and the posts never got deleted - they were done in jest and in the past I think mods have taken it in the correct spirit. 
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  • Sky_Mod7Sky_Mod7
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Wouldn't hold your breath By the way Spornybol has left the Site for the very same reason posts deleted for no apparent reason and no communication as to why
    Posted by scouse_red
    Spornybol received at least two PMs following his complaint on the forum - one of which was from me.  
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited March 2011
    It's all getting a bit communist on here lol.


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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave
    edited March 2011
    Hi guys,

    I am not too sure why the thread would have been moved. I didn't see it myself but can't imagine there was anything too bad on there. I reserve the right to change that opinion when I find it though ;)

    Apologies for the inconvenience and thanks for bringing it to our attention. I'll ask a few questions and see if I can shed some light on it in the morning for you.

    Trip5 - I think the thread was correctly put in The Shed as it was perfectly legit but 'non-poker', so the Shed is the home for that. Again, don't see any reason why it would have been deleted. I'll look around for you.

    Scouse - I'm afraid that's wrong. Spornybol has been messaged on a couple of occasions about sticking to the forum guidelines. Ask him to send me a PM if he thinks there's been any kind of confusion and I'll discuss it with him directly.

    Thanks all.
    Dave
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    Very good and well thought answers Sky_Dave.
    I never saw Scotty's thread but as you said - I can't imagine it would have been bad at all.
    A fair point about Trip5 post being moved to the Shed so no problems there.

    However if they have indeed been deleted by a mod then obviously there is a lack of understanding somewhere - I don't know how all this mod thing works - as in, can any of the mods delete any thread they deem unfit without any consultation? However you work it, I hope all the mods consider their actions and consult with each other more maybe in future just in case a more serious thread is deleted in the future which could lead to more anger that we have seen in the past. 

    Gl to all mods - you have a thankless task but it is a great concept imo if done correctly. 
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    Very good and well thought answers Sky_Dave. I never saw Scotty's thread but as you said - I can't imagine it would have been bad at all. A fair point about Trip5 post being moved to the Shed so no problems there. However if they have indeed been deleted by a mod then obviously there is a lack of understanding somewhere - I don't know how all this mod thing works - as in, can any of the mods delete any thread they deem unfit without any consultation? However you work it, I hope all the mods consider their actions and consult with each other more maybe in future just in case a more serious thread is deleted in the future which could lead to more anger that we have seen in the past.  Gl to all mods - you have a thankless task but it is a great concept imo if done correctly. 
    Posted by dylan12
    Cheers Dylan.

    Moderating this forum is a bit trickier than some as we don't have access to a Mod Only board as many - if not all - forums normally have. That means we tend to use IM or email to communicate.

    As for the consistency, we all know it's something we have to work on, hence in part the guidelines. We'll do our best to work on this and I hope you and the rest of the Community can bear with us and continue your support.

    Appreciate your post, have a good evening.

    Dave
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  • JockBMWJockBMW
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : I love you Irene - Great thread title!! x
    Posted by dylan12

    Do you think she knows it's welsh for "I love Dylan and want to have his babies"
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  • spornybolspornybol
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Spornybol received at least two PMs following his complaint on the forum - one of which was from me.  
    Posted by Sky_Mod7
    i said would not post again but mod 7 did send pm, even though i`m not happy about it ,but two others i`m cheesed off about, a simple question asked, and it`s deleted , then when mod 7 deleted by mistake i put up first and second thread up, but because it was (so called not poker related ) it was deleted ( althought i did get pm about it , no names mentioned) but the pm was as limp as dale winton, that`s the reason why i have left ( simple question treated like a kid)

    now on another note gl to all on tables, shame your missing - mrs bad cookin and her rear being an eclipse
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : i said would not post again but mod 7 did send pm, even though i`m not happy about it ,but two others i`m cheesed off about, a simple question asked, and it`s deleted , then when mod 7 deleted by mistake i put up first and second thread up, but because it was (so called not poker related ) it was deleted ( althought i did get pm about it , no names mentioned) but the pm was as limp as dale winton, that`s the reason why i have left ( simple question treated like a kid) now on another note gl to all on tables, shame your missing - mrs bad cookin and her rear being an eclipse
    Posted by spornybol
    God i
    have being on that skypoker cliff a few times lol ,
    dont jumpppppppppppp  my sporny bud ,
    we need men with balls around here lol .
    soz logdon & debs & you two  who have imaginary ones .
    calm down my sporny bud .
    sort it out via pm with dave .


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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Cheers Dylan. Moderating this forum is a bit trickier than some as we don't have access to a Mod Only board as many - if not all - forums normally have. That means we tend to use IM or email to communicate. As for the consistency, we all know it's something we have to work on, hence in part the guidelines. We'll do our best to work on this and I hope you and the rest of the Community can bear with us and continue your support. Appreciate your post, have a good evening. Dave
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    I sympathise with all mods - I was a mod once on a University forum when I was president of the Students Union - absolutely hated the role but it was in the job description sigh. Glad to hear that you use IM and emails to communicate, although not ideal, something is better than nothing. I always worked to the rule that I would never delete/move any post or thread without consultation with one of the other 5 mods - if they were not available I always asked a trusted member of staff for their opinion before making a decision. Once again, gl and ofc you have my support along with the majority of others as well :D
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods:
    In Response to Re: FAO Mods : Do you think she knows it's welsh for "I love Dylan and want to have his babies"
    Posted by JockBMW
    She wishes ;) 
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  • Sky_BernieSky_Bernie
    edited March 2011

    Hi,

     

    The original question on the thread was with regard to why a previous thread was deleted and as such Dave has stated above he will ensure that that Scotty receives an explanation as to why it was deleted.

     

    I want to emphasise that this is a private matter between Scotty and us and as such will not be posted on the forum.

     

    In cases such as this the correct route to ascertain the reason why a thread or post is removed where a PM has not been sent to the forum member in error, is to send a PM to me or Sky_Dave and we will provide the said reason.

     

    Finally, it’s quite clear that this thread has now drifted away from the original question and I have had to remove several posts, so therefore I am closing it.

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Bernie

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