You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
Sky Poker forums will be temporarily unavailable from 11pm Wednesday July 25th.
Sky Poker Forums is upgrading its look! Stay tuned for the big reveal!
Night of Profitable ABC poker.
Fun night last, went to my local casino to get out of the house last minute, turned £60 into £1470 playing at £1/£2. It was magic, no ridiculous 4% outdraws every other hand. Had A's cracked, but my fault as played them badly, knew it so lost the utter minimum.
Funny thing was before going out I lost a couple of hundred online then a bit more when I got back. Not calling from behind or putting it in bad, for the most part it was 1 big pot where some idiot rivered a set when the money was in on the turn (4.4%) and a couple of pots where luckboxes had weaker top pairs and rivered 2 pair for he winner (6.6%). Online the skill level is higher? Yes it is very skillful to keep catching those outs.
In 5 hours I didnt see more than a couple of hands that played out like the magic online. Makes my decision easier.
Funny thing was before going out I lost a couple of hundred online then a bit more when I got back. Not calling from behind or putting it in bad, for the most part it was 1 big pot where some idiot rivered a set when the money was in on the turn (4.4%) and a couple of pots where luckboxes had weaker top pairs and rivered 2 pair for he winner (6.6%). Online the skill level is higher? Yes it is very skillful to keep catching those outs.
In 5 hours I didnt see more than a couple of hands that played out like the magic online. Makes my decision easier.
Comments
im sure online fish are the same as live fish, maybe slightly more aggro but.
1) online regs are wayyyyy better than live regs of the same stakes
2) the reg:fish ratio is alot higher online
therefore online poker is tougher than live poker
sick heater though
Seems lately i cant hit a 20 outer nor dodge a 2 outer online and she has a very bad habit of asking me questions about something EVERY TIME something crazy happens. So through gritted teeth i gently said "COULD YOU PLEASE NOT ASK ME A QUESTION FOR A FEW MINUTES!!!!!! GAARRRHHHH". For my safety I needed to give her a wide berth for a few hours
In full honesty and seroiusness its not the fish or regs that cause me issues. Also to be honest I no longer play here. I just like sharing thoughts with Local players. My money goes in bad very very rarely. I dont lose online because I'm outplayed (often). Without whining or complaining I lose because I cant dodge the few cards that beat me, I simply draw badly or am nuturally unlucky. But on the flipside of this: You have to incorporate your known faults into your game, whether I can control this element or not, I am concious of it. This has made me a far better all round MTT and Final Table player. I've had to really master pot control and bet size manipulation to counter it. So I really cant grumble as my MTT wins are my bread and butter.
haha the annoying questions i understand completely.
one thing, if you say you rarely get your money in badly it can mean that you are playing waaaay too tight, especially online where people will punish you alot more for doing so.
i dont know what to make that you say you adjust your style of play because you know that they will hit or that you wont it just cant be a good way to go about playing poker
Also - how many hands did you actually play in 5 hours? You were maybe dealt 180 and played maybe thirty I guess? Of those thirty you feel that you had some of the online magic in a couple? You must have won the other 28 to get the return you got.
Dealers choice on the 3/6, it ensures no likely drunk boys sit down looking to open shove every hand.
I dont adjust my play in the sense you mean, but I may have given the wrong impression. All I really mean is if the bet is hugely disproportiante to the pot size then I wont neccassirly call off my chips in a 70/30 spot Example being I hold AKh board is 5s6sKc. If I put them on flush draw I wont neccassirly call off. I wont take J's all in pre when sat medium or deep (with a few obvious exceptions), and may not call with 9's for 25-30% when putting on two paint cards. Im not whining, i simply draw badly! But compounding that issue I have the tendancy to Tilt badly
Also means I'm deciding whether I'm going to commit or step on the brakes, dependant upon the player type.
My hand range may be slightly polarised but I 'm not super tight. If a hand has value I am more than happy to see a flop. Huge 6 handed pot with 46h last night.
I've seen you up on 865, I'll take some extra notice now
Quite the opposite bud. If you knew the regulars there you'd realise to turn a profit the only way is to grind. I only picked up two big pairs A's got cracked by 7's, but was my fault, then flopped Quad K's, holding K's against a guy who called me down with A high. Alot of it has to do with....sigh..... I have a reputation as a bit of a Hullmuth. I get action, but only because people are trying to bust me for spite
Turned the nut straight 5 handed, managed to get a 3 bet in at the turn that got called 5 ways, luckily three held the same flush draw and one held the weaker straight. Took me around 20 minutes to stack the pot
But deck certainly didnt hit me. It was simply patience ,solid folds and post flop play. But was very glad to avoid the bad luck.
There's an interesting couple of hands in the 2010 EPT main event where Daniel Negranue discusses this very thing. I think its J's vs AK, where an A spikes the flop, then the case J hits the turn. He apologises and says he'd broken his rulebook by calling, even though it was only 1/3 of his stack. Another hand in the event he mucks top top on the flop he correctly put his opponent on a pair and flush draw. Your not that far ahead. If you feel that you play better than your opponents, or can recoup whats invested in that hand quickly on a nip and tuck basis, why endanger the your position. Lol, but then you have a pro like Gus Hansen where he'd be more than happy getting 600BB's in on 50% draw to the nuts. Myeh, works for me just now anywho.
Really does just keep me in control of myself, the pot and the table. I'd rather go out if I've been outplayed than if I've got it in in a big race and missed. Easier to take and you at least can give respect to your opponent instead of muttering "Lucky idiot" under your breath as you leave
Christ you guys love to go on the attack huh?
Your pretty much just repeating everything I said bud, but putting a negative spin on it. I dont really see why? You think dodging the 5 remaining flush cards on the river is running well? Building a big pot at the turn when your 89% to win when you've folded, folded, folded is running well? No its patience and well timed aggression.
I pretty much also went into why I sat down shallow. With Negranue, your simply repeating exactly what I said negatively and critically. There is nothing wrong with adapting your cash game to the same protective strategy also though. You often see people protect their winnings in much the same way.
Wy flip for the profit you've grinded out?
Getting your money in a 3/4 favourite and your hand holding is nice. Having the 1/4 get there hurts but its within an acceptable loss (1 in 4 times). But having your 3/4 75% holding, in my opinion only, is just good poker. 75% fav on flop, you have to fade..what 5 cards, 10 if same odds at the turn.
So fading 5 cards in the deck off the flop shouldnt feel like your exceeding expectation.