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Too aggressive?
Right, player 'x' is very loose and very aggressive and calls everything (same one as my other thread if anyone read it). Had pocket 2's, decent raise pre flop from a player but decided to call due to the nature of the table and decided i had the implied odds here. Is this an ok call?
Ok, hit my set on the flop but with the flush draw there i was a bit worried with 4 players left in. Knowing i probably had a customer in 'x' i move all in to try and secure the pot. Is this a correct play, even without 'x' around?
Here is the hand.....
Thoughts please.
Ok, hit my set on the flop but with the flush draw there i was a bit worried with 4 players left in. Knowing i probably had a customer in 'x' i move all in to try and secure the pot. Is this a correct play, even without 'x' around?
Here is the hand.....
Hand History #354364580 (17:04 22/03/2011)
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| weeburns07 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £1.55 | |
| iceylies | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £1.48 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| FISH_Soup | Call | £0.04 | £0.10 | £3.16 | |
| DrSharp | Call | £0.04 | £0.14 | £5.66 | |
| x | Call | £0.04 | £0.18 | £1.56 | |
| scrogie | Raise | £0.12 | £0.30 | £2.31 | |
| weeburns07 | Raise | £0.18 | £0.48 | £1.37 | |
| iceylies | Fold | ||||
| FISH_Soup | Fold | ||||
| DrSharp | Call | £0.16 | £0.64 | £5.50 | |
| x | Call | £0.16 | £0.80 | £1.40 | |
| scrogie | Call | £0.08 | £0.88 | £2.23 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| weeburns07 | Check | ||||
| DrSharp | All-in | £5.50 | £6.38 | £0.00 | |
| x | All-in | £1.40 | £7.78 | £0.00 | |
| scrogie | Fold | ||||
| weeburns07 | Fold | ||||
| DrSharp | Unmatched bet | £4.10 | £3.68 | £4.10 | |
| DrSharp | Show |
| |||
| x | Show |
| |||
| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
| |||||
| DrSharp | Win | Three 2s | £3.40 | ||
Comments
K7 should of course fold but it's 4NL so they're not gonna be folding top pair all that often. But with shoving all in you don't allow any hands to call for draws as they have to commit whole stack to it and some (even the worst calling stations) will get scared off. Defo too big on flop for me.
Dudeskin can you please explain mate what you mean when you say no point raising at these limits.
Whereas if you limp for a small price of 1 blind or a 5x raise in this case (that might be too much or maybe just on the cusp) then you can win a massive pot if you hit against someone who can't fold a 1 pair over pair.
What i thought you were advocating was never to raise at this level with any hand.
If i value bet, am i not pricing the others in for the flush or am i paranoid on a 4 handed table?
Just try and play your hands how you normally would and don't fear the beats, I know it's hard but it's the only way you'll win money long term.
I cant add anymore advice other than agree with what Dudeskin has said.
1. Not only was your call OK, it was mandatory. Those who say 'raise' or 'never limp' have never played at these levels. Your call is fine.
2. The shove......now theoretically your play is awful. Once you hit your set you have to be willing to put all your money in, but how you get it in is the question.
I would prefer to build the pot. However, I know that playing at these levels, just shoving the lot in when you hit a set actually works. Again, the afacionados will say this is a bad play, but again I know that it works at these levels. (Incidentally, it works as well at much higher levels, but for different reasons).
IMO - you played it OK.