is he strong or weak...???

djblacke04

This Hand is Really bugging me,was late on in the primo,and i had to decide whether he was Raggy Ace or Even really strong ,i just need some other s thoughts...

Hand History #356177062 (23:56 27/03/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Hampi2008	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	8170.00
djblacke04	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	11405.00
	Your hole cards	Q J
TONY509	Fold
eirrabs04	Fold
blizzard	Raise		4000.00	7000.00	28375.50
Hampi2008	Fold
djblacke04	Call		2000.00	9000.00	9405.00
Flop
		J A 9
djblacke04	Check
blizzard	Bet		4000.00	13000.00	24375.50
djblacke04	Fold
blizzard	Muck
blizzard	Win		9000.00		33375.50

LOL_RAISE

shove pre ainec

DOHHHHHHH

Dunno about the maths of this situation, but I reckon even if he turns his hand face up and shows Ace x u still have to call to spike 2 pair, or a backdoor draw.

You really can't call a min raise out of a 6xbb stack, then fold at any point in the hand.

I watched this live, it wasn't close to a bubble or pay jump, think there was 16/17 left, the next jump was with 10 left.

Was scratching my head..... ??

What happened to shove/fold when you get to 10xbb?

GaryQQQ

Shove or fold only pre-flop with your stack. I shove unless the villain is an uber nit or we're right on the money bubble. I've no idea if he's strong or weak, there's only one way to find out.
 
I assume you're one of the shortest stacks still standing at this stage, if so you should be ready to gamble now before you get blinded out. When I shove with my QJ I'm happy to get called by anything except AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AQ, AJ, KQ or KJ. I don't mind taking my chances against AK or racing against an under pair. If you want to give yourself any chance of winning this tourney you need to double right now, there's no point meekly folding your way into oblivion.

Dudeskin8

Snap fold pre for me.

djblacke04

i had too many tables open at the time,in my defence,and made a mistake,but i think next time i will shove pre...

DeucesLive

with less than a 7bb stack, on the bb, it'd take a pretty awful hand for me to get out of the way. You need a double up urgently, JQ has a fair chance of being in a flip, and could even be dominating if you're lucky. If you're behind, there's every chance you're not crushed. Jam it in preflop ftw and you never know, you may get a fold. V unlikely but still the best play by a mile.

If you're not gonna ship it pre, fold it. Calling is by far and away the worst option, unless you see a J high flop what are you liking? Any pair would have been good enough for me on that flop, regardless of the other cards- I'd definitely be shipping it. He could have had literally any hand in the deck the way you played it.