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nl 20, another hand i murdered... I have a flush, i call right?

GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
edited April 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
saltz Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £3.34
Brownie586 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £19.75
sully919 Ante  £0.10 £0.40 £41.85
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 6
     
tithe Call  £0.20 £0.60 £19.20
CrazyBen23 Fold     
sully919 Raise  £0.80 £1.40 £41.05
GREGHOGG Call  £0.80 £2.20 £21.21
saltz Fold     
Brownie586 Raise  £2.40 £4.60 £17.35
tithe Call  £2.40 £7.00 £16.80
sully919 Fold     
GREGHOGG Call  £1.80 £8.80 £19.41
Flop
   
  • K
  • J
  • 10
     
Brownie586 Check     
tithe Bet  £1.40 £10.20 £15.40
GREGHOGG Call  £1.40 £11.60 £18.01
Brownie586 Call  £1.40 £13.00 £15.95
Turn
   
  • Q
     
Brownie586 All-in  £15.95 £28.95 £0.00
tithe All-in  £15.40 £44.35 £0.00
GREGHOGG ffs   
1. preflop play, should i just fold pre, or is calling a 3 bet with sooooted connectors ok on the button? 
2. flop play is calling here just losing money if im not prepared to get it in if i bink my flush.
3. turn... Ok, someone could easily have the ace of clubs imo... and someone else also has a straight or 2 pair... the caller could already have a better flush but its unlikley.
4. I assume folding is awful right? results later...
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  • KeevilKeevil
    edited April 2011
    In Response to nl 20, another hand i murdered... I have a flush, i call right?:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance saltz Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £3.34 Brownie586 Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £19.75 sully919 Ante   £0.10 £0.40 £41.85   Your hole cards 7 6       tithe Call   £0.20 £0.60 £19.20 CrazyBen23 Fold         sully919 Raise   £0.80 £1.40 £41.05 GREGHOGG Call   £0.80 £2.20 £21.21 saltz Fold         Brownie586 Raise   £2.40 £4.60 £17.35 tithe Call   £2.40 £7.00 £16.80 sully919 Fold         GREGHOGG Call   £1.80 £8.80 £19.41 Flop     K J 10       Brownie586 Check         tithe Bet   £1.40 £10.20 £15.40 GREGHOGG Call   £1.40 £11.60 £18.01 Brownie586 Call   £1.40 £13.00 £15.95 Turn     Q       Brownie586 All-in   £15.95 £28.95 £0.00 tithe All-in   £15.40 £44.35 £0.00 GREGHOGG ffs       1. preflop play, should i just fold pre, or is calling a 3 bet with sooooted connectors ok on the button?  2. flop play is calling here just losing money if im not prepared to get it in if i bink my flush. 3. turn... Ok, someone could easily have the ace of clubs imo... and someone else also has a straight or 2 pair... the caller could already have a better flush but its unlikley. 4. I assume folding is awful right? results later...
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Heya Greg!

    I think calling pre flop here to a 3 bet with suited connecters on the button is fine IMO..... Especially in a NL 20 cash game.

    When the flop comes with 2 clubs im sure this is the kinda flop u were looking for. You are definately getting value for £1.40 to see the turn so calling here is also fine.

    When the turn comes down a club i am defiantely getting my money in without a doubt... At this point im pretty sure your ahead! The bored couldnt get any straightier and i am definately putting the other two on an Ace. I dont think they would be shoving here with 2 pair unless they r donks :) 
    They could have the A of clubs but with 1 card to come i am not folding!

    I hope this make sense because ATM im still slighlty tipsey from last night! :)

    Look forward to seeing the results!
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  • shazallinshazallin
    edited April 2011
    I get the feeling you folded and would have won the hand
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: nl 20, another hand i murdered... I have a flush, i call right?:
    I get the feeling you folded and would have won the hand
    Posted by shazallin
    right on the first 1, wrong on the second 1.

    Basically imo, i made a loose call preflop to see that sort of board/action and then i get all paranoid and find a redic awful fold. the games about the right decisions innit.

    But... i woulda lost the hand...
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  • KeevilKeevil
    edited April 2011
    Im geussing a club came on the river.... :)
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: nl 20, another hand i murdered... I have a flush, i call right?:
    Im geussing a club came on the river.... :)
    Posted by Keevil
    wrong
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID
    edited April 2011
    Easy call for me.

    There are not many higher flush combos that are likely to be around in a 3-bet pot like this.

    I'd imagine that there is two straights out there and one of them holding the Ac to go with their straight. Potential spasz out with a ser/two pair is possible too.

    There are not a lot of hands beating you that I can see. AcXc is unlikely unless they are calling raising low suited aces and calling 3-bets with them.


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  • delaney09delaney09
    edited April 2011
    board paired on riverr someone housed up you saved £16 ?? i probably call cry break laptop in that order
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: nl 20, another hand i murdered... I have a flush, i call right?:
    board paired on riverr someone housed up you saved £16 ?? i probably call cry break laptop in that order
    Posted by delaney09
    yes..

    i saved 15 ish quid, but i made the wrong decision. and as im trying to get better at cash im still annoyed i didnt call.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesaltz Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £3.34 Brownie586 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £19.75 sully919 Ante  £0.10 £0.40 £41.85   Your hole cards 7 6       tithe Call  £0.20 £0.60 £19.20 CrazyBen23 Fold     sully919 Raise  £0.80 £1.40 £41.05 GREGHOGG Call  £0.80 £2.20 £21.21 saltz Fold     Brownie586 Raise  £2.40 £4.60 £17.35 tithe Call  £2.40 £7.00 £16.80 sully919 Fold     GREGHOGG Call  £1.80 £8.80 £19.41 Flop    K J 10       Brownie586 Check     tithe Bet  £1.40 £10.20 £15.40 GREGHOGG Call  £1.40 £11.60 £18.01 Brownie586 Call  £1.40 £13.00 £15.95 Turn    Q       Brownie586 All-in  £15.95 £28.95 £0.00 tithe All-in  £15.40 £44.35 £0.00 GREGHOGG Fold     Brownie586 Unmatched bet  £0.55 £43.80 £0.55 Brownie586 Show A A    tithe Show K J    River    K       tithe Win Full House, Kings and Jacks £42.00
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  • delaney09delaney09
    edited April 2011
    the worst is probably the guy calling with KJ where he is losing to any 9 A 2 clubs if he folds your decision is a lot easier to make but obviously when he makes the call you start doubting whether your 7high clubs are going to be good.... its a tough one cause you make the right call you get binked on the river you make the wrong fold but ends up being the right one on the river because of the one guy who called his stack off with top and middle pair and a straight/flush board
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