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340 pontefract tmoz

andybuckandybuck
edited April 2011 in Betting Chat
this is a very specialised race 2m 5f on the flat ,TERENZIUM ticks all the boxes here ,backed it at ponty last time over 2m 2f at 33to1 finished like atrain to finish 4th ,firm ground and the extra 3f look ideal its 3lb better off with descaro for just about 1l,,markington will be a big danger as this ticks afew boxes so a little saver on this might be worth wile,as for descaro never run at this trip before so i will take that on, lets see what the prices are and bet win or ew accordingly,please note that both these horses need fast ground but having looked at the weather should be quick ground at ponty

having just looked on bet fair terenzium should be around 7to1 so looks good ew bet
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  • MP33MP33
    edited April 2011
    n1 m8

    just had £3 on TERENZIUM - got 8.6 on it , then it went to 8.9  and ive just nipped out for half an hour and its now 5.7

    i don,t fully understand yet how these markets work - it was on 147% (at the top of each market) - i thought its best to wait until they get nearer to 100% to get the best value

    also do you know how to do forecasts on there or with these does it not matter which site you put the bet on as its always going to be the same price?

    MP
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2011
    hi mp33 if you put a forecast on bet 365 aslong as you put it on one horse A to beat horse B and then horse B to beat horse A instead of putting it on any order ie reverse forecast you get best odds guarenteed and it will show how much you get back ,i hope that has explained it 
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited April 2011
    In Response to 340 pontefract tmoz:
    this is a very specialised race 2m 5f on the flat ,TERENZIUM ticks all the boxes here ,backed it at ponty last time over 2m 2f at 33to1 finished like atrain to finish 4th ,firm ground and the extra 3f look ideal its 3lb better off with descaro for just about 1l,,markington will be a big danger as this ticks afew boxes so a little saver on this might be worth wile,as for descaro never run at this trip before so i will take that on, lets see what the prices are and bet win or ew accordingly,please note that both these horses need fast ground but having looked at the weather should be quick ground at ponty having just looked on bet fair terenzium should be around 7to1 so looks good ew bet
    Posted by andybuck
    Hi Andy,
    I have looked at this race a few minutes ago, and it is quite tricky, all handicaps are.
    I will oppose your selections with Ultimate Quest,seems well handicapped at the moment.
    I will chose 5 in the race and do a combination tricast as well
    Ultimate Quest
    Dan Buoy
    Descaro
    Markington
    Terenzium
     
    A combination tricast gives you 60 bets at 10 p i.e £6 staked
    and I will put $2 e/w on Ultimate Quest at 28/1 with bet 365
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  • SILEEKSILEEK
    edited April 2011
    Terenzium?
    2 wins from 30 odd attempts on the flat, both at Hamilton over 1m5f, both amateur rider contests.
    Has never won when the word "firm" appears anywhere in the going description (today Good/Firm and likely to get quicker!)
    9 years old and obviously not an improving performer.
    This horse should not be a single figure price today - 10/1 and upwards in my book.
    All things considered, I'm out!! :-)
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  • moonooomoonooo
    edited April 2011
    If you guys want abit of a rogue trade today then 5.05 Southell Dazakhee..The handbrake was firmly on this horse last time out..If you watch the replay Tony Culhane was giving it the old jazz hands out in rear and stayed on smoothly into 7th without even really being asked..When the stable wants this horse to win it will win.

    It was trading at 7's earlya and now into 7/4 hmmmm today could be the day...I would still watch the market before the off though if this 1 drifts again no no no if its smashed into then yes yes yes.. 
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  • moonooomoonooo
    edited April 2011
    And just to add to my above post Tony Culhane is more crooked than Del Boys blow up dolls lol..
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited April 2011
    Will have to have a pound on so they will let me watch it online :)

    Wow it's at 12/1 from 7/1!!

    50p ew it is ;)

    16/1 !!!
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  • moonooomoonooo
    edited April 2011
    Should of had your £1 on that one Doh 100/1 winner lol...230/1 on the exhanges ouch
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited April 2011
    hmmmm spose it doesn't help when you give horses 15 lengths head start. 

    These jockeys continue to amaze me, they're soooooo doooooooooooooopid.
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  • SILEEKSILEEK
    edited April 2011
    When I strongly suggest a horse will not win, it pays to take heed :-)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2011
    SILEEK

    Well done but what we wat is winners LOL

    100-1 shots would be nice
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  • SILEEKSILEEK
    edited April 2011

    Without wishing to appear sniffy about it, I can clearly see that most people
    on this forum are recreational punters, and that is fine.
    I take it a wee bit more seriously than that, but I am not in the business of throwing
    out "tips" behind a screen name on an internet forum.
    However, I am happy to point out occasionally when I believe somebody may have (with
    all good intentions) put you on a bum steer.
    My observations may not "win" you any money, but assiduous attention to any doubts raised, may
    save you from "losing" any!!
    :-)

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited April 2011
    Sileek I was only jesting and also like to "help" others with "no chancers". When I tip winners nine times out of ten they leat us all down.

    Hopefully next February you will enter my Naps Table on here and you will be a welcome addition

    Father Vaigret 
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  • SILEEKSILEEK
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    Sileek I was only jesting and also like to "help" others with "no chancers". When I tip winners nine times out of ten they leat us all down. Hopefully next February you will enter my Naps Table on here and you will be a welcome addition Father Vaigret 
    Posted by vaigret
    A man of the cloth indulging in gambling?
    Is that not a Christian heresy??? :-)
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    If you guys want abit of a rogue trade today then 5.05 Southell Dazakhee..The handbrake was firmly on this horse last time out..If you watch the replay Tony Culhane was giving it the old jazz hands out in rear and stayed on smoothly into 7th without even really being asked..When the stable wants this horse to win it will win. It was trading at 7's earlya and now into 7/4 hmmmm today could be the day...I would still watch the market before the off though if this 1 drifts again no no no if its smashed into then yes yes yes.. 
    Posted by moonooo
    Scored well, had a few quid on at 5/2.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    Without wishing to appear sniffy about it, I can clearly see that most people on this forum are recreational punters, and that is fine. I take it a wee bit more seriously than that, but I am not in the business of throwing out "tips" behind a screen name on an internet forum. However, I am happy to point out occasionally when I believe somebody may have (with all good intentions) put you on a bum steer. My observations may not "win" you any money, but assiduous attention to any doubts raised, may save you from "losing" any!! :-)
    Posted by SILEEK
    I think you should just give us 1 winner just to prove we can trust you   ;)
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  • moonooomoonooo
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz : Scored well, had a few quid on at 5/2.
    Posted by wynne1938

    Good stuff glad i steered someone in the right direction..The stables still rancid only back this horse when the moneys down

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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2011

    soz guys but a gave you a bad un,but i still stick to my convictions,and when i really fancy one i will put it up and the reasons why,sileek ive put 2 tips on here im not one for putting my dailly bets on here  that donkey today and an 18 to1 winner ,,so i still think i deserve another chance or 2,didnt get to see  the race today but the message i got from my bro was that it will still be running at 10 oclock tonight . i have been crown green bowling in sunny blackpool all day,,at least hugh taylor has pulled me out of the s h i t e

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  • tallboytallboy
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    And just to add to my above post Tony Culhane is more crooked than Del Boys blow up dolls lol..
    Posted by moonooo
    He's right about Culhane would never back a horse with him on it. Everyone will find out about him and a few other jockeys over the next few months.
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2011
    i agree about culhane hes a wrong un and he aint on his own
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  • SighKOSighKO
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz : He's right about Culhane would never back a horse with him on it. Everyone will find out about him and a few other jockeys over the next few months.
    Posted by tallboy

     Dish the dirt then m8, who are the others?
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  • Any2SuitedAny2Suited
    edited April 2011
    Good tipster that hugh taylor, nice dble he got up today at 9/2 and 8/1 .
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  • kaymackaymac
    edited April 2011
    In Response to 340 pontefract tmoz:
    this is a very specialised race 2m 5f on the flat ,TERENZIUM ticks all the boxes here ,backed it at ponty last time over 2m 2f at 33to1 finished like atrain to finish 4th ,firm ground and the extra 3f look ideal its 3lb better off with descaro for just about 1l,,markington will be a big danger as this ticks afew boxes so a little saver on this might be worth wile,as for descaro never run at this trip before so i will take that on, lets see what the prices are and bet win or ew accordingly,please note that both these horses need fast ground but having looked at the weather should be quick ground at ponty having just looked on bet fair terenzium should be around 7to1 so looks good ew bet
    Posted by andybuck
    had a look earlier and decided to invest a couple of quid but didn't fancy just the single so doubled it with FLIPANDO in the 3.10

    Flipando duly came in at 7-1 and waited for the money to roll in as Andy's been quite good tipping recently

    sadly then reality came in....................

    but glad I took the single as well so up overall
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2011
    lets put it this way i would never back anything kenny johnson or relson kenwhick ride over the sticks,not sure they are corrupt or justpoor ,mr j magnier who rides the odd bumpers has to be the worst jockey around,dean mckweon on flat was a crook,also never back a horse with ann stockel on it, i have my suspicions about sam hitchcock,

    i do have a few trainers as i have down as crooks,but that doesnt mean i do not back there horses,but i wouldnt back em when short prices

    j quinn good versatile trainer but have seen some of horses run very iffy either winning when looking to have no chance or short priced ones running to bad to be true

    mr swinbank all of the above comments apply to him aswell ,i never back any of these trainers nags when short prices but when big prices thats a different matter

    mark prescott does his crookery in perfect leagle way step his horses up in distance when they turn 3 year old and then all of a sudden they win 4 on trot in 2 weeks

    charles byrnes the irish trainer is most deffo guilty of crookery,i have seen jockeys changes on his horses at the last minute ,a big gamble occurs and the moneys in the bank
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  • MP33MP33
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: 340 pontefract tmoz:
    hi mp33 if you put a forecast on bet 365 aslong as you put it on one horse A to beat horse B and then horse B to beat horse A instead of putting it on any order ie reverse forecast you get best odds guarenteed and it will show how much you get back ,i hope that has explained it 
    Posted by andybuck
    Forgot all about that horse tbh until I read this thread

    I,ve got a bet365 account but haven,t used it in ages - I,ll look into that

    I don,t get many horse tips but when i do I,ll post them on here

    What about the dogs?  Anyone get any tips on them?
    I used to get tips on one dog - when to back it  and when not to back it, but unfortanetly its retired now
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  • andybuckandybuck
    edited April 2011
    i will correct myself i did put 2 irish nags up once won in the dark on that occasion it did nowt but repayed me after at aintree and waheeb the machiine bumper horse which won at short odds
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