Rivered straight facing 3bet shove

yb

No solid reads but villain seems pretty bad, doesn't fold much preflop, I 3betted him pre earlier a few times in position and he didn't fold once. Think he's fairly aggressive, but is this still a clear raise/fold spot, or do you call it off?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
RUNITSRANN	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£127.10
dannyhac21	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£78.41
	Your hole cards	Q K
Kefter	Call		£1.00	£2.50	£134.36
villain	Call		£1.00	£3.50	£120.83
CoxyLboro	Raise		£3.00	£6.50	£116.20
yb	Call		£3.00	£9.50	£142.22
RUNITSRANN	Fold
dannyhac21	Call		£2.00	£11.50	£76.41
Kefter	Call		£2.00	£13.50	£132.36
villain	Call		£2.00	£15.50	£118.83
Flop
		6 J 8
dannyhac21	Check
Kefter	Check
villain	Check
CoxyLboro	Check
yb	Check
Turn
		10
dannyhac21	Check
Kefter	Check
villain	Check
CoxyLboro	Check
yb	Bet		£11.00	£26.50	£131.22
dannyhac21	Fold
Kefter	Fold
villain	Call		£11.00	£37.50	£107.83
CoxyLboro	Fold
River
		9
villain	Bet		£6.00	£43.50	£101.83
yb	Raise		£32.00	£75.50	£99.22
villain	All-in		£101.83	£177.33	£0.00

LOL_RAISE

its a fufuffufufufufufufufufufuufufufufufu fold imo

waynec

any A any heart ur behind here, has he the fool end of the str8. £68 to win £177 over 2 1/2 to call and you say he seems a station and over aggressive....... a crying call i think!

grantorino

depending on how CO plays I might 3bet this pre, especially if you are likely to isolate villain

horrible spot on river, maybe fold but I think this has to be pretty close

N1CK

i think if you 3 bet this pre its to steal from c/o iso raise, i think the hands to good for that and it folds out the limper a lot what do you think?

yb

I was thinking of 3betting pre but the CO is good (should have included that in the OP), he isn't going to call a 3bet light oop and  is defo capable of 4betting light. Also I doubt the villain is bad enough to limp/call a 3bet so I thought it was best to call to keep in a larger range that I'm dominating and value town Q high flops when the villain has Qx etc.

If it was the villain who had raised pre I'd have defo 3bet fwiw.

grantorino

In Response to Re: Rivered straight facing 3bet shove:

i think if you 3 bet this pre its to steal from c/o iso raise, i think the hands to good for that and it folds out the limper a lot what do you think?
Posted by N1CK

I think you make a very good argument and are probably correct.

Im just not that delighted about playing the hand at least 4 way, which we are going to nearly all the time against CO small raise, and thought we often get folds from CO and sometimes calls from weak hands from limpers. If the 3bet folds out all villains range and only weaker part of COs range its prob bad, esp if CO 4bet bluffs sometimes.

On balnce you are prob right though, we are kinda turning a hand that is good often into a bluff

N1CK

when i first looked at this hand my first impression was yeah this is a fold then i think well villain is bad would we play a fd like this? would he not expect us to play a fd like this so does he think a queen is the nuts but it was 4 handed so better chance some1 could have two hearts, what does he expect me to call the donk shove with? level level level level.......f-it i fold

Unknown

Funny this, I remember the hand and put you on Qx and villain KQ/flush. Its so close on river to a call I just haven't played enough with villain yet to know.

FWIW, you should be 3betting KQo and flatting KQs IP vs my open, however this particular time you would have been 4bet  

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Rivered straight facing 3bet shove:

Funny this, I remember the hand and put you on Qx and villain KQ/flush. Its so close on river to a call I just haven't played enough with villain yet to know. FWIW, you should be 3betting KQo and flatting KQs IP vs my open, however this particular time you would have been 4bet  
Posted by CoxyLboro

lol at the respect your raises get

beaneh

3bet pre raise fold river. simples.