think i play wrong??

spornybol

early stages off double stack, think i played wrong or did i get max value after flop ?

Hand History #363643656 (17:07 20/04/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
spornybol	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2445.00
b	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2460.00
	Your hole cards	K 10
ICEMAN	Call		30.00	75.00	2860.00
dipchip10	Fold
SUPERNOVA	Fold
potsize	Call		30.00	105.00	2740.00
spornybol	Call		15.00	120.00	2430.00
b	Check
Flop
		K J K
spornybol	Check
b	Check
ICEMAN	Check
potsize	Check
Turn
		K
spornybol	Check
b	Bet		60.00	180.00	2400.00
ICEMAN	Fold
potsize	Fold
spornybol	Raise		180.00	360.00	2250.00
b	Call		120.00	480.00	2280.00
River
		9
spornybol	Bet		480.00	960.00	1770.00
b	Call		480.00	1440.00	1800.00
spornybol	Show	K 10
b	Muck	J 9
spornybol	Win	Four Kings	1440.00		3210.00

grantorino

Not played fine, you left loads of chips behind

I prob raise pre

bet flop for value

bet turn for value, when you raise make it much bigger people dont fold boats

bet bigger on river, at least 900 and theres definitely an argument for shoving

percival09

In Response to Re: think i play wrong??:

Not played fine, you left loads of chips behind I prob raise pre bet flop for value bet turn for value, when you raise make it much bigger people dont fold boats bet bigger on river, at least 900 and theres definitely an argument for shoving
Posted by grantorino

Raising pre would be a mistake, building the pot OOP against opponents who will probably call, then what do you do when you miss? 

Sorry yeah, looking back at it I would lead out on the flop, I forgot it wasn't raised pre, bet again on the turn ... and then tbh i'd shove the river. 

grantorino

if they call and we miss we either cbet or c/f depending on flop texture, number of callers etc. But they call with lots of worse hands here.  I dont hate the limp but  for me raise>fold>limp

TommyD

In my opinion fine pre.

I would bet either the flop or the turn, no way am I checking it twice.  Checking flop and leading the turn is probably better just because your hand is more disguised.  As played I think you can get more on the river.  He's turned at least a bare jack face up and I think you can get an overbet paid here when he calls for a chop.