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Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend

SPTSPT
edited May 2011 in The Sky Poker Tour
The venue is putting on a £50 NLHE Freezeout at 8pm in place of their normal £15 game, expecting that this will appeal to their many Sky Poker Tour visitors that weekend.
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  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    The venue is putting on a £50 NLHE Freezeout at 8pm in place of their normal £15 game, expecting that this will appeal to their many Sky Poker Tour visitors that weekend.
    Posted by SPT
    That should swell the numbers at Alea then, what a ridiculous decision, they don't even run midweek tournaments any more as they don't get enough runners!

    I hope they give a decent structure for such a high buy in 
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : That should swell the numbers at Alea then, what a ridiculous decision, they don't even run midweek tournaments any more as they don't get enough runners! I hope they give a decent structure for such a high buy in 
    Posted by SolarCarro
    +1

    A bit presumptious of them to think that.  Or maybe I am in the minority that something in region of £20 game would have been more appealing

    Think we will give it a miss and play at Alea on Fri night. 
  • edited April 2011
    Yeah, sorry Rich, but for the railers £50.00 is a bit steep...especially on the BR of a student ;o)

    Will probs go to the Alea on Fri and come meet up with everyone on the Saturday

    Probs really good for the bigger BR players though who wouldn't find much value in playing £20.00 freezeout...

    xx
  • edited April 2011


       As a railer i was looking forward to playing the £15 freezeout, but £50 is a little too steep for my Bankroll at present so i'll probally do the same as TRIP5.

      Either way it's gonna be a top weekend

     
  • edited April 2011
    I have to be honest I was thinking of playing the £15 game in preperation for the main event but £50 is just way too steep for a first time live player.
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    The venue is putting on a £50 NLHE Freezeout at 8pm in place of their normal £15 game, expecting that this will appeal to their many Sky Poker Tour visitors that weekend.
    Posted by SPT
    One possible reason.  Another would be they know there will be a huge turnout on a Friday before a SPT and want extra juice.  But they run a business after all so you can't blame them.
  • edited April 2011
    Would it not be an idea to run their normal £15 tournament (they have regulars after all) and also the £50 freezeout, then they cater for everybody and it's a sound business decision as well

    Dave
  • SPTSPT
    edited April 2011
    It's not a business decision at all, I discussed it with them and mentioned that the Fri night comp the night before SPT Luton example, at £75 was very popular, which it was. 35-40 Sky players played that

    I thought the same would apply for Leeds, and they decided to try a £50 event.

    Can't please all players, obviously, but I thought it was a reasonable decision considering who might be there on the Friday...many experienced Sky players will be looking for a good game with a good prizepool




  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    It's not a business decision at all, I discussed it with them and mentioned that the Fri night comp the night before SPT Luton example, at £75 was very popular, which it was. 35-40 Sky players played that I thought the same would apply for Leeds, and they decided to try a £50 event. Can't please all players, obviously, but I thought it was a reasonable decision considering who might be there on the Friday...many experienced Sky players will be looking for a good game with a good prizepool
    Posted by SPT
    I appologise for being wrong Rich.  And yes a lot of players going would want a bigger tournament.  If I was going I would.  It's just the 2nd SPT in a row that have upped their Friday tourney the night before the SPT (Luton was the 100 pounder).  But I totally accept Luton were planning to change their schedule months in advance of the SPT and what you have explained above.  Sorry once again, I'm probably just still sore-headed about missing out on this SPT.

    Thank you for the details :)
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    It's not a business decision at all, I discussed it with them and mentioned that the Fri night comp the night before SPT Luton example, at £75 was very popular, which it was. 35-40 Sky players played that I thought the same would apply for Leeds, and they decided to try a £50 event. Can't please all players, obviously, but I thought it was a reasonable decision considering who might be there on the Friday...many experienced Sky players will be looking for a good game with a good prizepool
    Posted by SPT
    If we look throughout the SPT forum, Leeds is full of new live players and players asking if friends and relatives can come. Looking at the list of qualifiers I don't see that many Sky "big guns"

    The Grosvenor Leeds cannot be compared to G casino Luton, they are miles apart in quality of game and quality of management, the Grosvenor Leeds are not even running a tournament most nights as their customer base has left them when they went through 2 management changes and basically gave up on poker a couple of months ago. In Leeds, a good game and a good prizepool is at Gala!

    Personally a mid priced game at perhaps £20 would be perfect, just like at Aspers in Newcastle, then the whole community that descends on Leeds the night before can be involved, the other solution for me is to run a £15 freezeout and a £50 freezeout then we all get to stay in the same place.

    Just my thoughts based on playing in Leeds over the past 3 years and knowing the clientele of the Grosvenor and it's competitiors, ultimately the Grosvenor will decide but there are plenty of alternatives.

  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : If we look throughout the SPT forum, Leeds is full of new live players and players asking if friends and relatives can come. Looking at the list of qualifiers I don't see that many Sky "big guns" The Grosvenor Leeds cannot be compared to G casino Luton, they are miles apart in quality of game and quality of management, the Grosvenor Leeds are not even running a tournament most nights as their customer base has left them when they went through 2 management changes and basically gave up on poker a couple of months ago. In Leeds, a good game and a good prizepool is at Gala! Personally a mid priced game at perhaps £20 would be perfect, just like at Aspers in Newcastle, then the whole community that descends on Leeds the night before can be involved, the other solution for me is to run a £15 freezeout and a £50 freezeout then we all get to stay in the same place. Just my thoughts based on playing in Leeds over the past 3 years and knowing the clientele of the Grosvenor and it's competitiors, ultimately the Grosvenor will decide but there are plenty of alternatives.
    Posted by SolarCarro
    +1
  • edited April 2011
    im not sure bout a 50 feezout,the gala has a friday game and so does the other casino,might b worth a look.
  • edited April 2011
    Had it confirmed by Tim, cardroom manager at Grosvenor that they are running their usual £15 freezeout on the Friday night

    Dave
  • SPTSPT
    edited April 2011
    thanks Dave, you seem to be a persuasive man :-)
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    Had it confirmed by Tim, cardroom manager at Grosvenor that they are running their usual £15 freezeout on the Friday night Dave
    Posted by SolarCarro

     Well done Sir
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    thanks Dave, you seem to be a persuasive man :-)
    Posted by SPT
    Not really, I suggested they run both the 15 and 50 as two different tournaments as I totally agree with you that there are enough Sky tour regulars wanting a 50 quid game!

    I think they are concious that if they did run a 50 quid buy in game it would ONLY have been Sky players, the regulars want the cheaper game, for the bigger game they go to Gala. They tried to compete with Gala 6 months ago and failed to sustain the good numbers they were getting.

    With the combination of having a great social scene at Sky and quite a few "first time live players" coming
    and the "regulars" voice I think they are correct to keep the buy in low but I was never against a 50 quid buy in, just wanted them to cater for the lower bankrolls!!

    Dave

  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : Not really, I suggested they run both the 15 and 50 as two different tournaments as I totally agree with you that there are enough Sky tour regulars wanting a 50 quid game! I think they are concious that if they did run a 50 quid buy in game it would ONLY have been Sky players, the regulars want the cheaper game, for the bigger game they go to Gala. They tried to compete with Gala 6 months ago and failed to sustain the good numbers they were getting. With the combination of having a great social scene at Sky and quite a few "first time live players" coming and the "regulars" voice I think they are correct to keep the buy in low but I was never against a 50 quid buy in, just wanted them to cater for the lower bankrolls!! Dave
    Posted by SolarCarro
    nice one,will b there. cant wait 2 play and meet u all
  • edited April 2011
    looks like its a night on the razz for me then. without regurgetation preferably.
  • edited April 2011
    oh no ...decisions decisions - which one to play in

  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    oh no ...decisions decisions - which one to play in
    Posted by Amarie
    There is only 1 tournament to play on the Friday - the £15 freezout which is their regular Fri game, they have decided not to run the £50 game.  Should make your decision easier :o)
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : There is only 1 tournament to play on the Friday - the £15 freezout which is their regular Fri game, they have decided not to run the £50 game.  Should make your decision easier :o)
    Posted by Yorkie74
    thanks Sian ..got a bit confused there must be the sun - see you in Leeds
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : Not really, I suggested they run both the 15 and 50 as two different tournaments as I totally agree with you that there are enough Sky tour regulars wanting a 50 quid game! I think they are concious that if they did run a 50 quid buy in game it would ONLY have been Sky players, the regulars want the cheaper game, for the bigger game they go to Gala. They tried to compete with Gala 6 months ago and failed to sustain the good numbers they were getting. With the combination of having a great social scene at Sky and quite a few "first time live players" coming and the "regulars" voice I think they are correct to keep the buy in low but I was never against a 50 quid buy in, just wanted them to cater for the lower bankrolls!! Dave
    Posted by SolarCarro
    is this a definate cause i aint payin 50 quid for a game of poker, this is my first spt and my first live game and would rather go to one of the cheaper tournies for a bit of practice.    cheers
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : is this a definate cause i aint payin 50 quid for a game of poker, this is my first spt and my first live game and would rather go to one of the cheaper tournies for a bit of practice.    cheers
    Posted by RAB642
    Yeah Casino confirmed on their facebook page that 50 quid was just an idea and that they had decided to run their normal £15 freezeout.

    Dave
  • edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : Yeah Casino confirmed on their facebook page that 50 quid was just an idea and that they had decided to run their normal £15 freezeout. Dave
    Posted by SolarCarro
    good stuff, i had already made arrangements to get down in time for the friday tourney so thats a good bit of news   cheers      rab
  • edited May 2011
    Nice try SPT.  Shame it got steamrollered.
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    Nice try SPT.  Shame it got steamrollered.
    Posted by SoLack
    +1


    Those managers at the Casino must obviously not like making more money...

    It's a shame when a very sensible and thoughtful idea gets shot down needlessly.
  • edited May 2011
    Gala Leeds takes the Friday night business with this tourney

    Friday
    £20 Triple Chance
    Two £20 re-buys allowed
    5000 point stack
    20 minute clock
    Entries from 7 pm, starts at 8.15 pm.
    £4 registration fee applies
    £3000 guaranteed prize


    Alea Leeds run a £15 freezeout with £5 bounty that gets around 60 runners

    Grosvenor gave up on big entry tournaments 6 months ago, too much competition from Gala.  A 50 quid tournament would only be the Sky players willing to play that buy in, say 35 - 40 runners

    The idea wasn't steamrollered or shot down, they run a £15 freezeout every Friday, they have a regular client base and don't believe a change from the normal is appropriate.

    Nobody complained at Aspers £20 freezeout





  • SPTSPT
    edited May 2011
    They suggested a change to a £50!

    It is disappointing for a lot of people they've reverted to £15, whilst good news for others.

    I am disappointed they changed their mind without consulting me, as they wanted my opinion when they changed the comp in the first place
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    They suggested a change to a £50! It is disappointing for a lot of people they've reverted to £15, whilst good news for others. I am disappointed they changed their mind without consulting me, as they wanted my opinion when they changed the comp in the first place
    Posted by SPT
    Lets hope they can organise the actual tournament a bit better hey!!
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend:
    In Response to Re: Friday 6th May, SPT Leeds Weekend : +1 Those managers at the Casino must obviously not like making more money... It's a shame when a very sensible and thoughtful idea gets shot down needlessly.
    Posted by BrownnDog
    +1
    was coming up to get on the alt list and the £50 game on friday made it good value. may try DTD on sat good luck all at the SPT

    Dai

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