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20nl, give up, or fire again on the river?

edited April 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Was this play as awful as i think it was?

No real reads on the villain although he hasnt done too much out of line. I assumed the turn card would scare him.

And also i play sets this way too.

Am i dreadful or was i ul not to get it thru. Is my donk leading giving away my hand?

ty ty

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceGREGHOGG Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £28.15 EASYFIX Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £46.39   Your hole cards Q J       colleyfish Fold     galio Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £17.35 giftonNW Fold     7king Fold     GREGHOGG Call  £0.50 £1.40 £27.65 EASYFIX Call  £0.40 £1.80 £45.99 Flop    10 7 8       GREGHOGG Bet  £1.35 £3.15 £26.30 EASYFIX Fold     galio Call  £1.35 £4.50 £16.00 Turn    K       GREGHOGG Bet  £3.00 £7.50 £23.30 galio Call  £3.00 £10.50 £13.00 River    8       GREGHOGG Bet  £6.00 £16.50 £17.30 galio Call  £6.00 £22.50 £7.00 GREGHOGG Show Q J    galio Show J J    galio Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 8s £21.37  £28.37

he didnt even think, he snapped, i hate it when that happens, means i wasnt telling the correct story i guess

Comments

  • edited April 2011
    In Response to 20nl, give up, or fire again on the river?:
    Was this play as awful as i think it was? No real reads on the villain although he hasnt done too much out of line. I assumed the turn card would scare him. And also i play sets this way too. Am i dreadful or was i ul not to get it thru. Is my donk leading giving away my hand? ty ty Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance GREGHOGG Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £28.15 EASYFIX Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £46.39   Your hole cards Q J       colleyfish Fold         galio Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £17.35 giftonNW Fold         7king Fold         GREGHOGG Call   £0.50 £1.40 £27.65 EASYFIX Call   £0.40 £1.80 £45.99 Flop     10 7 8       GREGHOGG Bet   £1.35 £3.15 £26.30 EASYFIX Fold         galio Call   £1.35 £4.50 £16.00 Turn     K       GREGHOGG Bet   £3.00 £7.50 £23.30 galio Call   £3.00 £10.50 £13.00 River     8       GREGHOGG Bet   £6.00 £16.50 £17.30 galio Call   £6.00 £22.50 £7.00 GREGHOGG Show Q J       galio Show J J       galio Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 8s £21.37   £28.37 he didnt even think, he snapped, i hate it when that happens, means i wasnt telling the correct story i guess
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Yes.
  • edited April 2011
    The story wasn't perfect, the only hand you can play like that is a draw or a set I think, so villain has odds to call. But I think only a good player or a rubbish player makes that call, and for me he looks like the latter. It doesn't look like you have a king, so jacks do have a fair chance of being good there- but I still think it was a classic case of getting attached to the hand and being unable to let it go, rather than making a well reasoned out call with logic.

    Don't try and bluff fish Greg. Also, +1 to Dohhhh.
  • edited April 2011
    Fold pre

    Its not a bad hand to lead flop if you are happy to bet/3bet, I usually would c/r though

    Dont bet river readless. Its hard know if this guy can hand read or just went I have JJ  woohoo call (more likely imo if he snapped), but all draws missed and there shouldnt be many kings in your range that lead flop. Your value range is pretty narrow and he's getting nearly 3/1 .More importantly, dont bluff unknown villains who have already raised pre and called two streets
  • ybyb
    edited April 2011
    I'd c/r flop, as played bet bigger on turn to set up river shove but I'd just give up on that river card tbh.
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