Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently?

DOHHHHHHH

I will post first, and explain my choice.

1 over, and 1 undercard to my opponents hand, and I always feel like an underdog.

For example If I have Ace ten, and he has KQ, I'm already resigned to losing the hand, I lose at least 65% of these, which is much further away from the norm than any of the other scenarios.

DOHHHHHHH

Most frequent bad beat????

Not in terms of quantity, but the bad beat that happens to you much more than it actually should.

For example if you lose all in pre flop with AA v 22 30% of the time, this is too much.

But if you lose to a 1 outer on the river 20% of the time, this might be less frequent, but in terms of probability, it's much more outragious, and obviously more rigged.

I will go through the options here, as there wont be enough room on the poll to explain the scenarios properly.

I'm looking for a conclusive sample size, to draw accurate conclusions, I think 20 replies should be enough, anymore would be overkill.

Scenario 1

Overpair v Underpair, all in pre flop - We should lose around 22% of the time.

Scenario 2

2 overcards v 2 undercards, unsuited. - I'm guessing we should lose this around 34% of the time. No need to be accurate.

Scenario 3

An over, and an inbetween, For example my A7 off v his K 4 off. - We shud lose this around 36% of the time.

Scenario 4

Overpair v 2 random undercards. for example 99 v 86o. - We shud lose this around 15% of the time

Scenario 5

1 over and 1 under. -  For example A2o v 86o - We should lose this a whopping 45% of the time.

Scenario 6

The flip! Pair v 2 over cards. - We should lose flips about 50% of the time!

debdobs_67

Mine is DEFO the same as yourself dohhh

unknown_username

Where are you looking for this to go?

You say you are looking for a conclusive sample size - but based on what? Memory and perception?

pod1

the one that seems to get me more than it should, is the 2 pair off the flop, i KNOW i lose more than i win of these, normally they hit set on flop too! had to allins yest ppvpp ahead on both,lost both, but i normally run good so cant complain, just a tad annoying!

DOHHHHHHH

Yes, memory and perception is fine.

This whole area of the forum is based on what people percieve, as we don't have stats to prove anything.

If you feel like you lose 90% of coin flips, say so!

It's gurddddd enough for me!

grantorino

I always lose when the hand number ends in a 6

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently?:

Yes, memory and perception is fine. This whole area of the forum is based on what people percieve, as we don't have stats to prove anything. If you feel like you lose 90% of coin flips, say so! It's gurddddd enough for me!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

OK but you'd get more results with an ''all of the above'' button  )

DOHHHHHHH

Nah however bad all the things r, 1 is always gonna be worse than the others!!!!

I could use loads of examples....but I'm not drunk enough.

Maybe I am useless at hitting doubles in darts, but I can hit double 7 once every 100 shots, whereas all the others it takes me 200 shots.

That wud therefore be the answer!

If you can't answer the poll then maybe it's just a fuss about nothing, as all would be in order!

murray69

For me its the over pair v the 2 under cards i seem to lose these more the 15% of the time altough for me when im in with say ace 4 versus j q, i seem to win most of these but usually whn i have more chips then the opponent.

jackda

I voted the same as you Dohhhhhh but I gotta add being dealt k-k and an ace comes on the flop.

pod1

forgot about that one jackda!

unknown_username

I couldn't really say which above any other but going by my 10 minutes in the BH tonight any of these could apply. 

Of the 12 hands played the following happened to either me or another player.

52 beat 44 with a straight vs a set of 4's

75 beat AA with a straight

85 beat AA with a straight (same guy)

AT flopped A8A and lost all in to a 66 call who then hit 6 on river.

AdTd lost to KK  (Flop was Kd3dTs  Turn Th and  River 4d) 

Some nice action there.  I was put out by the AA vs 85 and the last hand. These were the only hands that went to the river btw. 

5 out of 12 that's action for ya!

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently?:

I couldn't really say which above any other but going by my 10 minutes in the BH tonight any of these could apply.  Of the 12 hands played the following happened to either me or another player. 52 beat 44 with a straight vs a set of 4's 75 beat AA with a straight 85 beat AA with a straight (same guy) AT flopped A8A and lost all in to a 66 call who then hit 6 on river. AdTd lost to KK  (Flop was Kd3dTs  Turn Th and  River 4d)  Some nice action there.  I was put out by the AA vs 85 and the last hand. These were the only hands that went to the river btw.  5 out of 12 that's action for ya!
Posted by elsadog

Did you only play 12 hands in 10 minutes?

Lucy wasn't there playing for the bubble was she?

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently?:

In Response to Re: Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently? : Did you only play 12 hands in 10 minutes? Lucy wasn't there playing for the bubble was she?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I logged on late (at 5 past) and these are all I saw. Still 10 minutes and 2 players eliminated is some going.

Of those 12 hands I had the set of 4's, the AA vs 85 and the trip Aces on the flop. I also had KK in the BB and they all folded. 

leon621

i think there should be another option because i allways seem to lose same top card, higher 2nd card AK vs AJ eg. Out of the options im the same 1 over and one under then i do tend to sigh before a card is drew.

unknown_username

Just lost a very nice one.

A8 vs A7  flop A8x  he hit the runner runner flush LOL

edit:  AA just lost to 66 - is this variance?

..... and my 6x pf raise with AKs had 2 callers KJs and 85os  - Guess who hit 2 pair?

djblacke04

lol..most rigged......is when you go in ahead...on flop....90%+ and lose to runner runner..

unknown_username

I could fill this thread with these in a nights play on 2 tables.

I won't bother though.

DOHHHHHHH

A nights play isn't good enough. It's a miniscule sample. 

As is 900 nights play on 2 tables.

But at least 900 nights is a more realistic (yet still very very unre-liable) sample size.

So think back over the last 3 years..............

DJ read the question properly.

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Of all the un-random happenings, which one is rigged for action the most frequently?:

A nights play isn't good enough. It's a miniscule sample.  As is 900 nights play on 2 tables. But at least 900 nights is a more realistic (yet still very very unre-liable) sample size. So think back over the last 3 years.............. DJ read the question properly.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Think back over the last 3 years are you serious?

This is dafter than most of the posts you complain about. Selective memory?????

Beware - THIS IS A LEVEL - You have been warned!

djblacke04

none of the happenings listed above

they are all everyday events...

DOHHHHHHH

Of course they are everyday events, it's poker. But which one happens more than it should?

I thought someone at least would have gone for Pair v Pair!!!

I always read "I got my aces cracked by 22" then in the next freeroll "my kings got busted by pocket 4s"

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AMYBR

With sincerity doh, Apic to A rag

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BigBluster

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