Monster draw, but call the all in?

iBLUFF

As played do you call this? opponant is verry loose

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
897610	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£7.23
talha1992	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.55
	Your hole cards	5 7
eatmyset	Raise		£0.40	£0.70	£20.79
james70	Fold
iBLUFF	Call		£0.40	£1.10	£19.94
Quids	Fold
897610	Call		£0.30	£1.40	£6.93
talha1992	Call		£0.20	£1.60	£19.35
Flop
		4 4 6
897610	Check
talha1992	Bet		£1.60	£3.20	£17.75
eatmyset	Fold
iBLUFF	Raise		£4.00	£7.20	£15.94
897610	Fold
talha1992	All-in		£17.75	£24.95	£0.00
iBLUFF	???

CrazyBen23

He's prolly a tard whos got a 6, im instant calling

The_Don90

I dont think you can justify being in the pot if you dont stack on this flop.

AMYBR

Call and miss, its still the right call no matter what he has.  Very worst case scenario you have 10%.  But either way, of all the flops you could have ended up with, this is about as good as you can hope.  He's done the work for you.  Likely over pair, still 2/1 fav.

I'm never folding after i make it 4.oo, likely even put it in cold.  What are you folding to?  4's or 6's?

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

He's prolly a tard whos got a 6, im instant calling
Posted by CrazyBen23

straight to the point :P

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

Call and miss, its still the right call no matter what he has.  Very worst case scenario you have 10%.  But either way, of all the flops you could have ended up with, this is about as good as you can hope.  He's done the work for you.  Likely over pair, still 2/1 fav. I'm never folding after i make it 4.oo, likely even put it in cold.  What are you folding to?  4's or 6's?
Posted by AMYBR

after a couple more opinions ill post results

CrazyBen23

If he had a four here he do what most morons do and bet 20p lol srsly i'd bet money he had a 6

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

If he had a four here he do what most morons do and bet 20p lol srsly i'd bet money he had a 6
Posted by CrazyBen23

lmao

AMYBR

Before you do just try not to make it result dependant.

Even if he's minbet with 46/44/66 and caught gold, folding is still questionable.  Your draw is strong enough that there are so few hands dominating you that a fold is very....questionable.  The only hand that would give me any pause would be two higher hearts, but likely not even then bud.

iBLUFF

how much money crazyben? :P

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
897610	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£7.23
talha1992	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.55
	Your hole cards	5 7
eatmyset	Raise		£0.40	£0.70	£20.79
james70	Fold
iBLUFF	Call		£0.40	£1.10	£19.94
Quids	Fold
897610	Call		£0.30	£1.40	£6.93
talha1992	Call		£0.20	£1.60	£19.35
Flop
		4 4 6
897610	Check
talha1992	Bet		£1.60	£3.20	£17.75
eatmyset	Fold
iBLUFF	Raise		£4.00	£7.20	£15.94
897610	Fold
talha1992	All-in		£17.75	£24.95	£0.00
iBLUFF	Call		£15.35	£40.30	£0.59
talha1992	Show	4 J
iBLUFF	Show	5 7
Turn
		7
River
		3
iBLUFF	Win	Straight Flush to the 7	£38.50		£39.09

AMYBR

Very nice, min raising 4Jo is standard on sky though right

CrazyBen23

haha oh welll i still wouldnt fold if thought he had a four after raising the flop... i was right that he was a tard tho atleast lol j4 haha

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

haha oh welll i still wouldnt fold if thought he had a four after raising the flop... i was right that he was a tard tho atleast lol j4 haha
Posted by CrazyBen23

lmao

scotty77

if you are even contemplating folding in this spot then fold pre/fold flop/flat call flop.

nh sir

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

if you are even contemplating folding in this spot then fold pre/fold flop/flat call flop. nh sir
Posted by scotty77

yh thats what i was thinking at the time why call pre if im going to fold to a flop like this.Thank you sir

AMYBR

Out of pure curiosity what do you do if he flats the re raise on flop for £4, then jams OOP on the turn?

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

Out of pure curiosity what do you do if he flats the re raise on flop for £4, then jams OOP on the turn?
Posted by AMYBR

as turn was 7 i call

AMYBR

Yep my bad went right to the str flush.  Ok say turns 10c, after he flats the £4, then jams OOP.  What then?  Pot £9.60, bets £15 and change

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Monster draw, but call the all in?:

Yep my bad went right to the str flush.  Ok say turns 10c, after he flats the £4, then jams OOP.  What then?  Pot £9.60, bets £15 and change
Posted by AMYBR

its tough prob fold i think

grantorino

Once you raise flop I dont see how you can do anything else than get it in

I think I prefer flatting though, what hands do you expect to get it in with good? What better hands fold? I know its a big bet but I think you can call with implied odds. Loose guy leading multiway on this board likes his hand

AMYBR

Yeah think I probably have to fold turn in that scenario also.  But very nice of him to do the work on the flop

I may flat his flop bet looking to improve cheaply or just stick it all in with a masive overbet, hoping he is as daft as you say and calls.