2 hands in a row. Think first one leads to rash desision in the 2nd one. (NL4)

The_Don90

Ok as these are 2 sucsessive hands, obviously the first one has a huge impact on the second one. However maybe im overthinking here, But in the first one we can see our villian limp calls pre. The check calls T2P down to where i river a better 2 pair.

Now however in the second one he shoves. Now this could be tilt. Which is what i thought at the time. However in the first one he had a pretty big hand (post flop) but never raised once. Where as the second one hes shoving. Should i have taken this into consideration before i made my desision?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
v	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.05
The_Don90	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.96
	Your hole cards	K Q
carrotttop	Fold
Yosemite	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.57
stoneyb515	Fold
chaddyend	Fold
v	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£6.03
The_Don90	Raise		£0.24	£0.36	£3.72
Yosemite	Fold
v	Call		£0.24	£0.60	£5.79
Flop
		3 6 Q
v	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.45	£1.05	£3.27
v	Call		£0.45	£1.50	£5.34
Turn
		2
v	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.13	£2.63	£2.14
v	Call		£1.13	£3.76	£4.21
River
		K
v	Check
The_Don90	All-in		£2.14	£5.90	£0.00
v	Call		£2.14	£8.04	£2.07
v	Show	6 Q
The_Don90	Show	K Q
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and Queens	£7.43		£7.43

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.41
carrotttop	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.50
	Your hole cards	A Q
Yosemite	Fold
stoneyb515	Fold
chaddyend	Fold
v	All-in		£2.07	£2.13	£0.00
The_Don90	Call		£2.05	£4.18	£5.36
carrotttop	Fold
The_Don90	Show	A Q
v	Show	K K
Flop
		8 9 6
Turn
		2
River
		10
v	Win	Pair of Kings	£3.86		£3.86

now usually id take this on the chin, but as it was two hands in a row its got me thinking, did i make a rash desision.

Opinions please.

AMYBR

Yeah tricky. 

Hand 1 I'm definately shutting it down on the river after being called on flop and turn, may even shut down turn as I dont like being called pre, then flop.  But could be so many hands the the value bet does seem the best shot at these levels,  He's calling you with the weaker Q for sure.  But I think I do check river to see what he does.

Hand 2.  Blind wise its a massive bet.  It seems like how a good player at those levels would be looking for value, but steam factor added in on your part its understandable.  He could easi;y be doing it with J's or less.  But he's showed he played the Q6 horrificly pre, why should you assume hes playing K's for value.  At those stakes, especially after the hand prior, I likely snap him off also.

walesboy

No i'm not sure it was rash.
just shows how difficult it can be to put someone at nl4 on a hand
his range is wide (from the first hand) and it would be difficult to put him on Ks. you could easily have 2 overs to his small pocket pair or have him dominated with a weak ace. I've seen an allin shove pre with both.

no sure why he was in hand 1 but some people do like a suited picture card.

YOUNG_GUN

You mean fatal

Hand 1 i play same against a random but you got lucky although would have been a cooler obv

hand 2 after seeing the previous hand i think you have to call, could look like a tilt shove and we have a big hand still especially for nl4, UL but i reckon he could still be shoving with worse eg. AJ/A10 or even a pair we're flipping with

PS shouldnt post results on second one

DOHHHHHHH

Totally stand-hard. nh's

grantorino

1. nh
2. call/fold whatever, I prob call

rancid

standard play i guess

Don't know about you but I am seeing more and more open & 3 bet shoves with AA/KK 80-100 BB deep
Getting my fingers burnt a bit ) May need to change how you approach this spot as I am finding my notes are playing a massive part in my next move.