Correct Fold Over Time or Too Tight

D_Chivers

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
D_Chivers	Small blind		200.00	200.00	17073.50
waffle29	Big blind		400.00	600.00	9800.00
	Your hole cards	K K
herbert1	Raise		800.00	1400.00	8725.00
titepants	Call		800.00	2200.00	4786.50
wrongjohn1	Fold
D_Chivers	Raise		2200.00	4400.00	14873.50
waffle29	Fold
herbert1	Call		1600.00	6000.00	7125.00
titepants	Call		1600.00	7600.00	3186.50
Flop
		A 4 4
D_Chivers	Check
herbert1	Bet		400.00	8000.00	6725.00
titepants	All-in		3186.50	11186.50	0.00
D_Chivers	Fold
herbert1	Call		2786.50	13973.00	3938.50
herbert1	Show	7 7
titepants	Show	J 5
Turn
		10
River
		2
herbert1	Win	Two Pairs, 7s and 4s	13973.00		17911.50

Would just like your thoughts on the above hand
Try to forget the result, as this time i should have called
Was it the correct fold over time?    or Isit a TERRIBLE fold?

D_Chivers

I should include the reads i had on the players

Titepants calls everything pre, and called down with 10 high a little while earlier

And Herbert1 has playing solid poker, nothing out of the ordinary

grantorino

with your reads I prefer betting flop

I dont mind fold as played

AMYBR

3 way action after a min raise UTG, + call + your 3 bet called in two spots, pre flop 3 bet sizing was practically perfect.

A lead and a jam over the top, then comes back to you.  Result regardless your hand should already be mentally in the muck.  Let the crazies go busto, you simply cant call.  Herbert easily comes back over the top if you call, snaps off a jam if he's opened UTG with solid A.

Only thing I would say is that if the Tite pants guy is playing that bad I likely make my 3 bet pre significantluy larger (on this occassion) as he's likely to be launching himself down the rabbit hole regardless  Probably in the 3200 range.

CrazyBen23

Stop editing your posts chivers, surely no one is stupid enough to call with j5... what a clown. prob right fold over time normally someone has an ace here

DOHHHHHHH

I think I would shove pre........

Stacks r awkward, nothing wrong with ur raise size but I think shoving is just about an option with 21xbb and 11xbb stacks already in.

Your standard 3b range is gonna b really strong here, a shove could look like a squeeze......

Maybe I'm gonna lose value by shoving but I probably would.