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an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees

edited May 2011 in Poker Chat
A few things sky could look at that would guarantee to beat overlays, decreasing numbers and would also increase prizepools.

Late Reg:

Have a period of time where people can still enter the tournament after the tournament has started. length of time this is open depends on the tournament. An hour for tournaments such as Primo and the SkyRoller as the blinds are like 40/80 by then which is still a decent stack with 2,000 chips in primo and 5,000 in the roller. 30 minutes for the other main events. Give people a chance to get in if they just missed the start or didnt plan on playing but changed their minds. 

Re-Buy:

Oh no some people cry, some peopl think that because they are rebuys people play crazy poker as they can just rebuy. you want them to play crazy lol. dont have it in them all, just a couple. Firstly: 

Primo - This tournament gets maybe 20-30 players over the guarantee, if i get knocked out of primo early im gutted as its a big tournament with a big prize, and i know hundreds of players will be the same. so why not have the option to rebuy. it will ensure the guarantees are beaten easily week in week out and the big prize will get meatier and meatier. this way primo will expand again and become the main tournament on sky.

Thursday night bounty hunter - This gets a big prizepool anyway but imagine re-buys. oh the fun, the head prizes someone could get for the night would be insane. they are fast and furious tournaments anyway so having rebuys for it would only make it better value.

Sky Roller - i personally wouldnt rebuy but many players would, and it could only be good for this tournament as sky try to kickstart it, and for it to run regular at 5k prizepool, late reg and re-buys would guarantee it would make it.


Re-entries:

Similar to rebuys excpept you get shifted to a different table, or if you take a bad beat you can sit and cool off for half a hour then just reg back in before the alotted period is over.

more food for thought.

Comments

  • edited May 2011
    rebuy would be great for Primo/BH.  just a rebuy tho, no addon so that smaller BR players won't feel disadvantaged.
  • edited May 2011
    How shook your cage this morning Hursty. lol

    Loads of great ideas coming out of you today

    Like it and also like your SPT suggestions  
  • edited May 2011


    No.... Please do not make the big game Rebuys...No, No, No, No, No


  • edited May 2011
    The only problem with rebuys and late registration are they then cause tournaments to last longer which wouldn't be good for people who have to work the next day.
  • edited May 2011

    - Stating the obvious, but no rake on rebuys = bigger PP's and less negativity surrounding rebuys on the site.

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    - Rather than unlimited rebuys, maybe just allow 1 rebuy per player, which can only be taken when you drop below 500 chips? 

    ^^^^^(stopping players immediately playing a double stack, and ensuring it still plays like a normal freezout rather than a jam fest)

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    - Sats to cater for rebuys, eg - if the 33 BH was made a rebuy, run sats for people to win a £93 package rather than just £33, a buy in, a rebuy, and an add on. 

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    - Said on another thread, but more opportunuty for players to qualify for bigger tournys as part of the C4P system.(which needs improving)
    Anyone earning between 1-2k points per month go into a freeroll sat where top 50 win a main event seat (can also allow ppl to buy in too)

    ^^^^Similar to the league freeroll but for the lower stakes/more casual players.

    Maxally will Luvvvit!




  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    The only problem with rebuys and late registration are they then cause tournaments to last longer which wouldn't be good for people who have to work the next day.
    Posted by AcidMan27

    Apparently there are some on line tournaments that will run till 1.00 am on a given night...  stop...  and then restart at 10.00pm the next night, giving people who work a chance to play in a deep structure event.  Just a thought 

  • edited May 2011
    I think Late reg is an excellent idea!

    I hate the rebuy's idea

    Re-entries i'll probably saw to i dont like it but i havent really played any so wouldn't really know, is it not just a glorified rebuy?

    regardless whether the 2 i dont like i think they will all boost the Guranteeds & prizepools which can always be a bonus

    FWIW on any other sites are their ME's rebuys?
  • edited May 2011
    please no rebuys please
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    No.... Please do not make the big game Rebuys...No, No, No, No, No
    Posted by aussie09
    sorry +1
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    please no rebuys please
    Posted by pryce6

    I'm not a hugh fan of rebuys, but if it's restricted to just one, as has been suggested, surely that's not too bad.  Especially if it increases the prize pool 

  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees : Apparently there are some on line tournaments that will run till 1.00 am on a given night...  stop...  and then restart at 10.00pm the next night, giving people who work a chance to play in a deep structure event.  Just a thought 
    Posted by JockBMW

    That would be epic.

  • edited May 2011
    i think 1rebuy maximum, no addons would be good (but would have to be no extra rake on the rebuy)

    late reg. is a must imo
  • edited May 2011


    Shoot me now!!

    Before making all the tournies rebuys, how about trying to get the more popular things introduced to the 'bigger' buy in tournies?.

    i.e...More sats/late reg/H4H/and even antes!
  • edited May 2011
    why no rebuys? Let them rebuy and spew all in every hand... I think it's a good idea imo
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    Shoot me now!! Before making all the tournies rebuys, how about trying to get the more popular things introduced to the 'bigger' buy in tournies?. i.e...More sats/late reg/H4H/and even antes!
    Posted by MAXALLY
    cos the software is already in place to make it happen.

    think lol_raises idea is best.  a 1 time only reg free re-entry.  will not affect smaller BR players at all as the players who use this option won't be able to addon/constanttly get it in light in hope for building up a stack,.
  • edited May 2011
    agreed with late reg
    i wouldn't have rebuy on the Primo though, maybe a similar buy in amount rebuy tournament would be good, but since Primo is the main event on Sky, i think it would be bad! -also on the topic of rebuys, you could always introduce double rebuy, where for example if the initial buy in is £10 for 2000 chips, you can rebuy after being knocked out for £20, and get 4,000 chips. 
    Sky also need more £10-£30 ranged tournaments, far too many micro tournaments. 
    I'm liking the new improves structures on Sky, but these are a must imo, maybe better S&G's aswell, not just 6 or 9 players, make some 18 seaters etc ... 
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees : cos the software is already in place to make it happen. think lol_raises idea is best.  a 1 time only reg free re-entry.  will not affect smaller BR players at all as the players who use this option won't be able to addon/constanttly get it in light in hope for building up a stack,.
    Posted by scotty77
    I think this is fair if it does go down the rebuy route a max of 1 or an add on

    the main reason im not a fan is constantly knocking people out a few times and then they get lucky a few times and they knock you out (bit of an extreme scenario) also as a rule you should have at least 2 rebuys + an add on in these tourneys as tikay says(or something along that lines) which makes it tougher for those without the role to do this
  • edited May 2011

    -1 to rebuys

    Having rebuys available will deter players with small rolls buying direct into these tournaments, they will soon work out they will be at a big disadvantage if they can afford a single entry but not the re-buys and add-on and stop entering. Also there's no point satelliting into a rebuy tournament if you can't afford the rebuys, so the satellites would dwindle too.

    The brief test of daytime re-buy bounty hunters recently was a total flop, I see no reason why they would work better in the evening.

    +1 to late reg

    re-entries; maybe, certainly worth a try.

  • edited May 2011
    If the Tourney has an 'R' next to it, I avoid it like the plague.
    I've come across crazy poker while playing them and they just arent bothered and buy back in.

    Why would I buy in for say 11 quid with having a small bankroll, say get busted then buy in for another 11 quidand probably be a shortstack to everyone else

    I only ever played one and had a knob jockey on my table, got busted, so I wasnt paying anoher 11 quid for the pleasure of being on his table for another half hour or so
  • edited May 2011
    1R1A sounds good. Although might put some off.
  • edited May 2011
    we arent talking about making them all rebuys, just the tournies such as the primo, BH and skyroller etc. and i think you will find that a rebuy option on primo wouldnt see people playing crazy poker like everyone associates with rebuys. its £50 a throw. i just think it would be useful if you take a real bad beat to have the option to get more chips. 1 rebuy or Addon in my opinion would be good for primo. unlimited rebuys in the thursday bounty hunter would be amazing.
  • edited May 2011
    and late reg is a must. even if its just 30 mins. would be most useful and get more runners into the tournament.
  • edited May 2011
    Nice Thread Roulette Queen. 

    Totally agree, Late reg would be awesome and a massive +1 to the Primo and BH being a 1 max rebuy, would bump the prizepool even more and attract more players. 

    P.S. Lol_Raise is on fire with his ideas atm, good work, keep it up!! 
  • edited May 2011
    I think if the starting stacks in primo were increased, it would gove more play in the first hour or two then it wont need a rebuy. Like the idea of it though hursty:)
  • edited May 2011
    a rebuy in the primo just means I do my nuts quicker in that comp!
  • edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: an idea that would boost the numbers/prizepool/guarantees:
    i think 1rebuy maximum, no addons would be good (but would have to be no extra rake on the rebuy) late reg. is a must imo
    Posted by LOL_RAISE



    THIS



  • edited May 2011
    I'm 100% behind late registration, it would eliminate most overlay (saving Sky money), as well as boosting fields and prize funds. I frequently use late registration on other sites. 

    As someone who doesn't play in The Primo (brag; only played in it once, got 4th) I'm not really qualified to comment, but I think making it a rebuy might be controversial and deter a lot of the current players from entering. Perhaps this is an idea that warrants a one-off trial to see how it goes. Either way, it's about time that Sky fell in line with the industry standard and dropped the rake on rebuys. I'm sure the reason the re-buy Bounty Hunter tournaments were a total disaster is because they charged a 15% rake on both the entry fee and the rebuys, a rebuy Primo would be much more likely to suceed if there was no rake charged on rebuys.
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