So what would you have done now?

Huck_Nall

Its early on in the 7pm deepstack and you have plenty of chips and this happens.
What would you have done next?

Somerled	Small blind		30.00	30.00	4085.00
Uzi_lover	Big blind		60.00	90.00	4370.00
	Your hole cards	A A
Bza3swords	Fold
mike1975	Fold
seaford2	Fold
kevin1968	Fold
Huck_Nall	Raise		180.00	270.00	9980.00
edders	Call		180.00	450.00	3195.00
bennydip2	Call		180.00	630.00	4780.00
SHY-BOY	Fold
Somerled	Fold
Uzi_lover	Call		120.00	750.00	4250.00
Flop
		6 5 3
Uzi_lover	Check
Huck_Nall	Bet		562.50	1312.50	9417.50
edders	Fold
bennydip2	Call		562.50	1875.00	4217.50
Uzi_lover	Raise		1740.00	3615.00	2510.00

Huck_Nall

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Hale72

Fold would be my first impression.
Deep stack, plenty of time to fight. Would appear to me the raiser has hit their set and is protecting the hand from a straight draw and with another caller to your bet then someone's got something good. It may be 3 pocket overpairs as i cant see the flop being that much use after 180 raise but then again a hand like ace 6 could well be playable comparing the stack sizes to the bet and uzi was ultimately in for the BB anyway and perhaps fancied his chances. Depends very much on the previous action, has he been aggressive? Has he seen lots of pots? Noticed he's down on his starting stack so would assume he's been aggressive but unlucky.
Very tough to fold aces and in the heat of battle i'm probably calling but then again I would probably go crashing out early.

You do have the raiser well covered in chips so ultimately i'm all in based on the tecture of the flop not helping him and hoping he hasn't hit his set and assuming an all in will then cause bennydip to fold putting the tournament future on the line for the other player. Or is it bennydip slow playing his set?

Iv'e changed my mind. Yes i think Bennydip is slow playing his set and i'm folding.

Amazing that having 15 minutes of thinking I fold. That timer bar goes down way too quick!


So my answer is that I would go all in but end up regretting it and honestly I should fold.

Does that mean i'm edging my bets and get disqualified?

BlackFish3

Hmmm because you have them both covered well you could shove... it just doesn't feel like your aces are good anymore though... thats not much of a board for a caller and a reraiser... 2 pair looks unlikely so looks like over pair, set or even incredibly the straight (but discount that). Its either shove or fold. hmmm, such a tough one... good job its not for your tournament life! I dont see why benny dip would flat call without a set though to be honest. You raised pre flop so you could have been betting a big ace but then if he also only had ace high why call. Im thinking benny dip has a set and the other guy has an over pair (88- ill just take a random stab as a bit of fun). I would be tempted to shove because you have them both so nicely covered but i doubt you are good here. I agree with the above poster... tempting to shove but i guess you really should fold... i dont know how they play though to be fair so its difficult to judge... this is the sort of situation where you need to use everything you have observed so far from there play.
Let me know what you did and how it turned out!

scotty77

Raise more pre.

Uzi is pretty loose but tbh that looks like a raise for value.  If he had gone AI then I snap call as I think thats more likely to be a pair/st8 draw combo. 

Again tho Uzi is a thinking player, and he also knows that you are a thinking player too which brings in meta game and he could be raising ATC here knowing that you are good enough to fold a big overpair.

I dunno looking back at the hand it looks like an excellent spot to squeeze but meh this is why I hate tournies.  I'm a fish I prob say FU AI knowing I still have 5k left when he does insta-call and show the flopped st8.

Sky_Dave

Wow, this is a bit of a nasty one!

I am not as familiar with the players as some of you, but I agree with Scotty in that this does look like a good squeeze spot for the Uzi. However, his bet size is kind of weird. Do you think he would not shove for this whole stack if it was a squeeze? 

I am guessing - stress on the guessing bit - that he's got something like a pair and a draw, so something like 64/75. etc.

BlackFish3

I say the aces have been cracked on the flop. Im thinking that a stronger pocket pair may well reraise preflop.

dodgydaz

Hmmmm the reraise has me worried here........ the more i think about it the more i fold.... but thats taken me 10 mins.

I guess in the time you have to make the decision its a shove over the top as we can pretty much rule out the straight and youve only got to be worried about 3 pocket pairs..... Uzi could be putting you on AK, AQ here and trying to push you off assuming your bet on flop is a standard continuation bet as you were preflop raiser.......

Tough one though.... let me know what happened

BlackFish3

I think the thing that makes it easier is you have been called by 1 player and then reraised... so 2 players have indicated they have hands and therefore the raiser is less likely to be bluffing.

BADBOY985

ITS AN ALLIN 4 ME CANT SEE EITHER OF THEM CALL YOUR ORIGINAL RAISE WITH 4 7 SO THE STRAIGHTS OUT.
IF UZIS HIT THREE SIXES,FIVES OR THREES IS HE RERAISING SO AS TO GIVE YOU THE EASIER FOLD. YOUVE GOT ENOUGH CHIPS TO GET BACK INTO THE TOURNIMENT IF YOU DO LOOSE THE HAND

BlackFish3

You are all concentrating on uzi... what about bennydip... he could have the set? Being sandwiched in the middle is a very bad spot, to be honest I think either shoving or folding is fine, its a very debatable hand making it a great post but it is really tough to know if you are ahead or not with no likely draws out there. I personally might fold because in this sort of situation someone usually has hit 2 pair or better with some unexpected hand.

BADBOY985

IF YOUR RAISNG WITH AA YOUVE FLOPED PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU WANT LOW CARDS, NO OBVIOUS STRAIGHT OR FLUSH DRAWS. YOU CANT POSSIBLY FOLD IT

BlackFish3

Thats very true, its just the action that would worry me. Why would uzi call preflop without a hand? And why would bennydip then call the almost pot size ish bet on the flop without a hand with a player to act afterwards, and then why would uzi reraise after 2 players have shown strength??? thats a suicidal squeeze play. Over pairs are definately plausible as are sets, ive seem some strange stuff so this could even be top pair but id personally want to be on the safe side this early on in an mtt. You dont gain that much from taking 1 of them out but you lose a lot of power you could use to your advantage in the next couple of blind levels if you lose the hand after going all in. Very interesting hand though.

Huck_Nall

Well boys and girls - rightly or wrongly I folded!
I was out of position and had no idea where I stood in the hand.
I was not worried by Uzi's raise but I knew that bennydip would call the shove on a draw.
As it happened I was ahead on the flop but would have lost on the river.
It was early and I had a good stack and could afford to wait for a better position.

Somerled Small blind  30.00 30.00 4085.00 Uzi_lover Big blind  60.00 90.00 4370.00   Your hole cards A A       Bza3swords Fold     mike1975 Fold     seaford2 Fold     kevin1968 Fold     Huck_Nall Raise  180.00 270.00 9980.00 edders Call  180.00 450.00 3195.00 bennydip2 Call  180.00 630.00 4780.00 SHY-BOY Fold     Somerled Fold     Uzi_lover Call  120.00 750.00 4250.00 Flop    6 5 3       Uzi_lover Check     Huck_Nall Bet  562.50 1312.50 9417.50 edders Fold     bennydip2 Call  562.50 1875.00 4217.50 Uzi_lover Raise  1740.00 3615.00 2510.00 Huck_Nall Fold     bennydip2 All-in  4217.50 7832.50 0.00 Uzi_lover All-in  2510.00 10342.50 0.00 Turn    K       River    4       Uzi_lover Show 9 9    bennydip2 Show 7 5    bennydip2 Win Straight to the 7 10342.50  10342.50

GREGHOGG

I reshove all in, cos i know Uzi makes those plays and if benny wants to risk it all on a draw, so be it. Im happy to take down Uzi's raise and win the pot there and then.

One thing i will say tho is that it is a FOLD or a big RERAISE (all in) its NEVER a flat call.. EVER...

I completley understand your fold Roy but if i believe i am ahead, which in this situation i would, i would want to get my chips in. Benny may fold here and you might even get a loose call from Uzi if he does. But a reshove could achieve two folds and you pick up a nice early pot.

IRISHROVER

must pot bet flop , which i think u did , now his over the top on flop reraise must be a fold for u 9/10 times its 2 pair or a set or gets lucky on draw ,   great fold u will or have made a lot of cash on sky . well done .