Should i be folding here..?

Wayne_B73

Played this hand, and having the nut flush draw and nut straight draw i called and lost,  Was i wrong.? or should i of played it differently.?

   I tried to copy and paste the hand and it didnt come out correctly.? any pointers please?

Wayne_B73

Iv had difficulty in posting the screen shot of the hand so will try and explain it..

My hole cards pre flop AS JS i raise 3 times the blind to £1.50

I am then reraies by the Button upto £5.50 which i call to see the flop.

the flop comes down QC 9S 10S  i have a nut flush draw and a possible nut straight draw..

I bet maybe to low, a bet of £2,  i am then reraised which puts me all in so considering my draws i call and lose to J9 diamonds  with pair of nines..

Apart from my flop bet beeing weak, maybe i shoudl of reraised  pre flop..?

should i of folded on the flop with the draws i had.?

iBLUFF

Im guessing your short stacked then for him to shove on you, i think you have to call depending how much you have back.

Wayne_B73

well i have  just over the maximum buy in which was about £57 but he had around £80 ish

AMYBR

I'm snapping it off to be fair.  What hand is your opponent repping here on that board?

Worst case scenario he has JK, your still close to 40%

Your statistically beating a set.

Bet size is likely a draw.

Snapping it off in a cash game

LOL_RAISE

preflop is probably marginal to bad without any reads (calling the reraise that is)
flop i would either lead bigger or c/heck raise  with intention of getting it in

SHANXTA

yeah i dnt like the call pre OOP, flip it around and i dnt hate it as much, as long as u can outplay oppo on some flops

whats ur reasoning behind leadin so small, what is £2 in2 ~£11 going to acheive?

flop u have 2 get monies in, i prefer a c/r, n u prob av a small amount of fold equity

SHANXTA

In Response to Re: Should i be folding here..?:

I'm snapping it off to be fair.  What hand is your opponent repping here on that board? Worst case scenario he has JK, your still close to 40% Your statistically beating a set. Bet size is likely a draw. Snapping it off in a cash game
Posted by AMYBR

im not so sure about this

Wayne_B73

thanks for the info and replies, 

with out doubt i think i played the hand badly, my bet size both pre flop and on the flop was wrong,  in reality actually making the call with all the outs i had im 95% certain in my own head it was right and  perhapps most people would call it 9 out of 10 times.  it wasnt like i had 100% of my bankroll in play..

AMYBR

As Js

Flop Qc 9s 10s  (QQQ - 999 - 101010)

Four 8's Four K's 6 flush cards (Ks 8s Qs deducted) 14 x 2.2 x 2 = 68%

Even shaving off 2 outs your a coinflip

LOL_RAISE

In Response to Re: Should i be folding here..?:

As Js Flop Qc 9s 10s  (QQQ - 999 - 101010) Four 8's Four K's 6 flush cards (Ks 8s Qs deducted) 14 x 2.2 x 2 = 68% Even shaving off 2 outs your a coinflip
Posted by AMYBR

Board: Qc 9s Ts
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     39.848%      39.39%     00.45%                390             4.50   { AsJs }
Hand 1:     60.152%      59.70%     00.45%                591             4.50   { 9c9h }

download pokerstove and run some hands through it, you will find that the 4x rule becomes pretty inaccurate at 10+ outs

AMYBR

I probably better had bud.

I looked into this after you mentioned it before.  I'm not a huge online player these days and dont use it.

Thing I have to say is that I know most poker % (or think I know them) by wrote.  Any time you see a % hand in any WSOP or EPT event the hand % are exactly where they ought to be from my understanding, 10+ or nay.

So does pokerstove supercede these, being more accurate overall?

grantorino

fold to the 3bet pre readless

c/r flop, as played its a snapcall