Bottom set.....

ZedsDeadBa

I've been told on a number of occasions to be prepared to go bust in a set over set situation and indeed I cant remember the last time I was crushed that way.

So, once I'd put that aside my consideration was the flush draw. So with this in mind was I wrong to call his all-in?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceBaldy0007Small blind £0.02£0.02£0.56BarryQueenBig blind £0.04£0.06£8.01sonickBig blind £0.04£0.10£0.89 Your hole cards22   sonickCheck    IVISONFold    BIGDTRICCall £0.04£0.14£6.34ZedsDeadBaCall £0.04£0.18£4.84Baldy0007Call £0.02£0.20£0.54BarryQueenCheck    Flop  2410   Baldy0007Check    BarryQueenBet £0.20£0.40£7.81sonickFold    BIGDTRICFold    ZedsDeadBaRaise £0.65£1.05£4.19Baldy0007Fold    BarryQueenAll-in £7.81£8.86£0.00ZedsDeadBaAll-in £4.19£13.05£0.00BarryQueenUnmatched bet £3.17£9.88£3.17BarryQueenShow5A   ZedsDeadBaShow22   Turn  6   River  4   ZedsDeadBaWinFull House, 2s and 4s£9.13 £9.13
Regards,

Z.

LnarinOO

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ZedsDeadBa

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Posted by LnarinOO

Thanks, real helpfull that, yeah!

Z.

LnarinOO

jus not sure wot ur askin ? 

obviously ur not foldin right?! 

LOL_RAISE

wp, i might raise slightly bigger on the flop

AMYBR

TBF ZEDS it is a bonkers post.  Only folding with a massive soul read, bad poker even then.

You should never really be thinking of folding on such a dry board, you have the 3rd nuts bud, snap him off and enjoy it.

Patching99

Definatley the right call, think your about a 70-30 fav.

Glenelg

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wp, i might raise slightly bigger on the flop
Posted by LOL_RAISE

How much? Was Villain EVER going away?

DOHHHHHHH

Good stuff Zeds, keep playing/running good!

DeucesLive

Right, well first of all you answered your own question- always go broke set over set (or at least, almost always- there's very few absolutes in poker. You can say always go broke at NL4 with a set in fair certainty though).

If you want to examine it a little closer though, villain is in BB. He is extremely unlikely with 4 limpers to check behind with TT, and if he flops top set he's then relatively unlikely to lead out- someone else would probably do the betting for him. So the only hand beating you here realistically is 44, and again- he's more likely to check seeing as he didn't raise pre.

He has all kinds of 2 pair combos, flush+straight draws and even A10 type hands he's gone bonkers with. Your set crushes virtually his entire range, because I really don't see him having sets here almost ever.

I agree with a slightly bigger flop raise though, maybe to 80p or so. That really is nitpicking, but every little helps.

grantorino

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In Response to Re: Bottom set..... : How much? Was Villain EVER going away?
Posted by Glenelg

we are not trying to make him go away.

raise flop bigger, nh.

Dudeskin8

Nice brag thread.

ZedsDeadBa

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Nice brag thread.
Posted by Dudeskin8

What's that supposed to mean?

Z.

Dudeskin8

It's a brag right ?

CLIOKID

Er.

Always call.

If you think he has a flush draw, why would you ever consider folding?

As you said too, set over set is an unavoidable hit.

Keep getting it in with sets and watch the ££'s roll in.

AMYBR

I think he's seriously concerned by the overset with the flop 3 bet jam.  Which is a moot worry IMO

ZedsDeadBa

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It's a brag right ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

No.

unknown_username

Hi Zed. Good stuff yet again mate. We can re raise biger on the flop but the end result looks the same.

delaney09

So, once I'd put that aside my consideration was the flush draw. So with this in mind was I wrong to call his all-in?

Never folding wp keep running good

AMYBR he already said he puts guy on fl.draw so dont think hes worried about over set

rancid

raise bigger on flop to get monies in

100% call you should never fold in this spot tbh

pretty crystal his shove is a semi bluff