Should i have led out the flop?

unknown_username

Is this standard? Opponent has been ok, never too aggressive and all his play was pretty standard stuff, nothing out of the ordinary.

Hand History #381656673 (14:13 13/06/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
CINEMASHOW	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.88
DrSharp	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.86
	Your hole cards	10 10
freddy581	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£0.80
BigStax85	Raise		£0.12	£0.22	£2.55
CINEMASHOW	Fold
DrSharp	Raise		£0.32	£0.54	£5.54
freddy581	Fold
BigStax85	Raise		£0.72	£1.26	£1.83
DrSharp	Call		£0.48	£1.74	£5.06
Flop
		J 5 9
DrSharp	Check
BigStax85	All-in		£1.83	£3.57	£0.00
DrSharp	Fold
BigStax85	Muck
BigStax85	Win		£1.60		£1.60
BigStax85	Return		£1.83

He has played it like he has a big pocket pair. Am i just set mining here, or should i continue aggression on the flop. I was very unsure as player hadnt done anything like this before.

unknown_username

I realise now that he doesnt have the stack to set mine but whats the correct play. Should i fold pre flop after his further re raise to 72p.

grantorino

If you are 3betting pre make it bigger, I would sometimes just flat. Once he 4bets either shove or fold, I would fold.

If for some reason I get to flop this way I c/c

YOUNG_GUN

I'd prob re-raise more in your spot pre 40p ,

i think you played fine check fold is how i would play it

DOHHHHHHH

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If you are 3betting pre make it bigger, I would sometimes just flat. Once he 4bets either shove or fold, I would fold. If for some reason I get to flop this way I c/c
Posted by grantorino

Once he 3bets, is folding no longer an option? And he shud get it in? (going bak to the QQ hand from the other fred)

percival09

can't call his 4 bet pre with his stack, either shove or fold depending on how he has been playing. and if you do flat his 4-bet, i'm getting it in on this flop.

Dudeskin8

Defo reraise more, 32p is WAY too small, 40-45p minimum.

Once reraised again it's shove fold you can not set mine, I personally haven't had this situation happen to me yet at this level with a hand like 10's/Jacks but if it did given his stack size it's a shove and make notes if he has the dreaded AA/KK.

grantorino

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In Response to Re: Should i have led out the flop? : Once he 3bets, is folding no longer an option? And he shud get it in? (going bak to the QQ hand from the other fred)
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

To answer your question as best I can dohh this situation differs slightly, even though I always kinda hate 3b/f TT, and it would be part of reason I flat here a decent % of the time

1. QQ plays better against villains 4bet range, it beats some hands that can 4bet for value if villain is aggro like JJ,TT, AQ. Its hard make a 4bet value range that TT does ok against

2. In this situation we 3bet a btn open. Villains in general are more likely to flat ip than oop and also more likely to flat light than when we 3bet ep open 

Also we have some reads that say villain isnt aggro, and 4betting is very rare at 4NL

I think there are certainly some hands we can 3bet for value and fold to a raise, QQ is too strong readless though imo, TT is borderline and I would hate doing it against a good aggro opponent . Again all this depends on how often villain calls/raises etc.

As to this particular hand, just noticed villain is short, I just get it in when he 4bets