AA 10max missed value?

elldixon18

Hi all first post in the clinic, just wondering about this jam!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Jippa	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£9.20
elldixon18	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£23.60
deano611	Big blind		£0.20	£0.50	£2.98
	Your hole cards	A A
captape16	Fold
BATTSY64	All-in		£2.80	£3.30	£0.00
mattthoey	Call		£2.80	£6.10	£38.41
deano611	Fold
M247	Call		£2.80	£8.90	£60.94
dickieop04	Fold
alanward	Call		£2.80	£11.70	£9.64
munro283	Fold
Jippa	Fold
elldixon18	All-in		£23.60	£35.30	£0.00
mattthoey	Fold
M247	Fold
alanward	Fold
elldixon18	Unmatched bet		£21.00	£14.30

elldixon18

Bit of reasoning... with the size of the pot pre I was happy to take it down there and then. That said, maybe a reraise would be better but don't fancy going multiway - plus would making it £12/£15 just scream strength?

Not too many reads on the table and players who'd already called, apart from the big stack who I'd got down as a loosey goosey!

PokerPaul2

Think the shove is the right play here.

DOHHHHHHH

Why are you happy to take it down right now? :S

Your re-raise is another 100xbb to the other players to call off.

You can make it 6.95 or something, then shove any flop.

I agree the shove is better than making it 12/15 though!!

percival09

shove is bad - their are 2 deep stacks, raise to 7/8 quid, price them in and more than likely win a big pot. If you lose you lose, it's a cash game just reload! 

Codex

it depends, there are plenty of weaker hands that call the shove that you might not get paid off with on the flop


its a choice between £7-9 and shove imo and given the shove is only 10x the current bet 4 handed i think its fine

the last thing u want is 3 callers after a small raise - then u have a big pot you are odds against winning

leon621

i think a couple of months ago you may have got a caller, however so many people have done this with AA over the last few months that players are starting to wise up to this little trick.

elldixon18

Hi people ty for the replies and sound advice - couple of responses...

To Paul : Cheers!

To Dohhh : I just saw it as an easy £12 pickup against a random shorties jam. If I make it £7 and the table calls around again I thought it was asking for trouble if a coordinated board flops!  Call me a chicken I'll accept it!

To Percival : I hate losing buy-ins and AA and KK are the hands that I usually get into most trouble with - be it cash or tournies.

To Codex : You're thinking along the same lines as me   Don't think anyone had QQ or KK, so a pair of 10s or Js may call preflop if they're in a gambling mood puttin me on AK, whereas if the flop comes A high or K high they can get away from it.

To Leon: Yeh fair does I'm wary of overshoves but against randomers in the evening it can sometimes pay off - if only it was a Friday/Saturday night instead of Monday!

Dudeskin8

If it was KK/QQ would shove as Ace could flop if you raised big but here I'd make it around £8-9 then never fold.