Have I got the odds to call?

Seagull158

rosebudfou	Big blind		£0.08	£0.08	£5.01
slipo999	Big blind		£0.08	£0.16	£3.12
	Your hole cards	J Q
Paddybouba	Raise		£0.16	£0.32	£7.16
alcando	Call		£0.16	£0.48	£14.93
slipo999	Call		£0.08	£0.56	£3.04
Seagull158	Call		£0.16	£0.72	£27.21
rosebudfou	Fold
Flop
		5 5 10
Paddybouba	Check
alcando	Check
slipo999	Check
Seagull158	Check
Turn
		A
Paddybouba	Bet		£0.24	£0.96	£6.92
alcando	Fold
slipo999	Call		£0.24	£1.20	£2.80
Seagull158 ??????

percival09

I don't think so, and even if you are it's a fold. 

Chasing a gutshot on a paired board isn't really ideal, you may be dead already.

If both opponents were as deep as you then you'd have an argument as implied odds come into play, but one has like 40BB and one has 90BB, i just fold. 

shipdchips

Its a fold

46/4 = 11.5 to 1 the pot is laying 5/1 on your call

DOHHHHHHH

Get into the habit of folding this without even thinking., there's no decision here.

Seagull158

In Response to Re: Have I got the odds to call?:

Get into the habit of folding this without even thinking., there's no decision here.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I folded. Of course, the river was a K.

shipdchips

correct decision never be results orientated the fold was the £ play long term. 

grantorino

I think its a fold but its not a snapfold, there are villains who pay you enough when you hit to make a call worthwhile. However no one looks strong here, one of our outs is dirty and we are sometimes beat when we hit 

corn_rat22

I'd never call, you could even be dead then just get in so much trouble, gf

Dudeskin8

I'd personally snap fold preflop, for me there is just no need to get involved with average hands like this.

At turn I've already ticked the check/fold box.

AMYBR

Player dependant.

Last thing you want is to make your hand drawing dead, stacking off to the boat.  I fold in most of these spots to save the decision.

For me pre is fine, as long as you proceed uber cautious post bud

percival09

In Response to Re: Have I got the odds to call?:

I'd personally snap fold preflop, for me there is just no need to get involved with average hands like this. At turn I've already ticked the check/fold box.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Really? With over 300BB? 

grantorino

pre is fine in a multiway pot on the button getting 3.5/1 especially since one villain is deep

Percival the deepest villain has less than 200BB

silentbob

FWIW, I don't mind pre. You've got position & have a hand that if it flops well can make you some money. 

Once that flop comes down though I've no interest in a multiway pot. The turn should always be a snap fold imo.

percival09

In Response to Re: Have I got the odds to call?:

pre is fine in a multiway pot on the button getting 3.5/1 especially since one villain is deep Percival the deepest villain has less than 200BB
Posted by grantorino

I know, just saying hero has over 300BB so easy call. 

grantorino

its still less than 200BB effective stacks

Crunchybob

although its not the right odds to call, for 24p id probably take a gamble lol. u must of been cursing when the king fell lol

silentbob

In Response to Re: Have I got the odds to call?:

although its not the right odds to call, for 24p id probably take a gamble lol. u must of been cursing when the king fell lol
Posted by Crunchybob

This is a major part of the problem of playing these stakes. It shouldn't matter whether it's 24p, £24 or £240. It's all relevant to the level that you're playing. Even if he makes the call because it's "only" 24p & he feels like a gamble, it's still the wrong call. 

grantorino

whether its the wrong call or not depends how much he can make when he binks river