Fold call or shove

Batkin88

Early in tourney have a very playable stack is it a fold or would you call 25% of stack or shove??

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Batkin88	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2225.00
swandolf	Big blind		30.00	45.00	1450.00
	Your hole cards	J J
aenoon	Fold
Josef_Gree	Fold
_player1	Raise		90.00	135.00	2300.00
FERN390	Call		90.00	225.00	1190.00
Batkin88	Raise		210.00	435.00	2015.00
swandolf	Fold
_player1_	Raise		600.00	1035.00	1700.00
FERN390	Fold
Batkin88	Fold
_player1_	Muck
_payer1__	Win		570.00		2270.00
_player1__	Return		465.00

AMYBR

This bet sizing would seriously worry me.  IMO your dominated or flipping.  Have to decide if you want to flip.  I dont mind a fold at all, good dicipline regardless.

percival09

your opponent must know you have strong hand 3-betting from the blinds, so for me he has to have QQ+ here, including AK. I don't mind the play, but personally i'd just call the raise pre and check out the flop, but don't think there's tooooo much wrong with this

Dudeskin8

Ahh I'd hate this, they've made a standard 3x then you've made quite a weak 3bet to which he's put a proper daddy bet in. Being early I would probably take the same approach you have. Don't think calling is good as most flops will be check folded.

YOUNG_GUN

Im prob insta folding here if the villain is any good, if there bad im happy to get it in. Really villain dependent here imo

Nice to see you back battykins where have you been, you well? x

grantorino

If I was 3betting I make it 360 to go

I dont really like 3b/f JJ oop 75bb deep readless.  I prob just flat the CO raise pre, if I raise Im prob getting it in. As your 3bet is so small it may be more profitable to fold than shove

Batkin88

What size 3 bet should i be putting here if 3 betting? 270+

Young gun i have been on diff sites but thought it would be nice to come back to the community and play some tourny's again.

Dudeskin8

Yep 270+ would be perfect.

percival09

In Response to Re: Fold call or shove:

What size 3 bet should i be putting here if 3 betting? 270+ Young gun i have been on diff sites but thought it would be nice to come back to the community and play some tourny's again.
Posted by Batkin88

My 3-bet sizes differ depending on what position i am on the table, in the SB i usually 3-bet more than i would if i were in position, so in this situation with a raise and call i'd make it atleast 325. You can 3-bet less in position, alteast 2.5X is fine

Batkin88

In Response to Re: Fold call or shove:

In Response to Re: Fold call or shove : My 3-bet sizes differ depending on what position i am on the table, in the SB i usually 3-bet more than i would if i were in position, so in this situation with a raise and call i'd make it atleast 325. You can 3-bet less in position, alteast 2.5X is fine
Posted by percival09

Cheers really helpful on my 3 betting play