Late stages of MTT - call or fold - hand id [386754606]

dtm75

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rawl	Small blind		1250.00	1250.00	111150.06
xxx	Big blind		2500.00	3750.00	51548.76
	Your hole cards	J Q
bonnylad	Fold
pomfrittes	Fold
dtm75	Raise		6300.00	10050.00	53141.72
rawl	Fold
xxx	Call		3800.00	13850.00	47748.76
Flop
		7 Q 5
xxx	Bet		5000.00	18850.00	42748.76
dtm75	Raise		22887.50	41737.50	30254.22
xxx	Call		17887.50	59625.00	24861.26
Turn
		K
xxx	All-in		24861.26	84486.26	0.00

Winning this would have made me chip leader by a fair amount, xxx had been pretty aggro, but hadn't been to any showdowns, so I couldn't ascertain whether he kept having the goods.

Guess I would have got same information with a 15k re-raise. I've pretty much shut down after he's smoothed my re-raise of his small lead. Screams strength.

Thoughts?

Thanks, Dan

Mohican

Pot committed old chap. You have to call.

grantorino

why are you raising top pair if you are shutting down if he calls?

dtm75

Am assuming his lead, is to make me fold my 88, AJ type hands and he has nothing. Thought healthy raise from me would get the job done.  Maybe he has AK, but then wouldn't he shove pre? Maybe Kd10d, or he's suckered me in with bullets?

Perhaps "shutting down" is the wrong phrase. "über wary" would be better. K is a scare card for me. 

I think I've played it badly, regardless.  Didn't really want to check call through the streets tho.  Stuck hand here for advice, tend to be a non-believer of big stacks later on?

- fold pre?
- raise smaller on flop?
- call turn?
- fold turn? (see now that I was pot committed, but with 12.5 bigs, am not completely out)

Cheers

DOHHHHHHH

Just call it off.

He could have Kx of diamonds, that would be annoying.

YOUNG_GUN

Snap call after your mahousive raise on the flop youo can never fold here

dtm75

In Response to Re: Late stages of MTT - call or fold - hand id [386754606]:

mahousive raise

lol

...coming to realise I may need to reign these in a bit.  Cheers YG

YOUNG_GUN

Its not bad if you put him on flush draw tbf but you have to call afterwards really as you have commited yourself

percival09

i think he has J10 diamonds!

your raise on the flop gives villain no fold equity, so you're folding out all his bluffs

i call turn / he could have hit the K, he could have picked up additional outs with the K, either way with the money you've already invested in the pot i think mathematically you sorta have to call.