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Its official i HATE SITTERS

DazlerDazler
edited July 2011 in Poker Chat
Wait, what? You're complaining about dead blinds going spare on your table?

t'was a freeroll, I take it?
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    cant believe some people im sat at a table with 2 sitters for the whole game get down to me and one other player with the other sitter to the right of me gets all the way down to just about 100 chips left and other player in just keeps raising ever hand to steal i get a q high flush all they had to do was check it but no they put me all in when i have my flush and they hit k high flush on the river  with k3 off beating my Q high flush i hit on turn. seriously it does my head in. its just down right bad sportsmanship.

    Why register for a torny if your not gonna play it disrupts the flow of the game and couldnt do anything.
    anyone else have this happen?
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    no it wasnt a freeroll
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    blinds were only 100 and thats all he had left
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  • DannyMcsDannyMcs
    edited July 2011
    Thought you said you were with sitters for the whole game?

    God knows why anyone would do it in an MTT they're paying for, I've only seen people do it for any length of time in freerolls.

    Fair play if you're just after a good "proper" game though, I can see how it'd be annoying if you're in it for a proper poker match. Got to be a good thing money-wise though!


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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    i cant understand it either if your paying for a game why wouldnt you play. Sometimes its cos they havnt got connection but not whole game. Dont mind the odd sitter if i can nick there blinds but what annoyed me the most was just the other guy only had to check for us both to cash he had huge stack and i tried to play him for most of the game but lost a few big hands. he still woulda won it if he checked the river only had 4 bb left
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    you dont have to do what i suggested but just think its a bit off really and i wouldnt do it myself
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  • waller02waller02
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    i cant understand it either if your paying for a game why wouldnt you play. Sometimes its cos they havnt got connection but not whole game. Dont mind the odd sitter if i can nick there blinds but what annoyed me the most was just the other guy only had to check for us both to cash he had huge stack and i tried to play him for most of the game but lost a few big hands. he still woulda won it if he checked the river only had 4 bb left
    Posted by Dazler
    if he only had to check for you to win then why didnt you fold....im guessing this was a dym?
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : if he only had to check for you to win then why didnt you fold....im guessing this was a dym?
    Posted by waller02
    i did think of it but had hit my q high flush and just had feeling that sitter would go all in double up and i would be all in next hand with rubbish so had to really was the first hand i actualy hit any thing above a pair and other guy just kept raising me all in every hand before when i hit pairs and such and didnt want to not cash. My fault in a way should of made a stand regardless of the sitter but it just put my game off. think the next time im just gonna have to bite the bullit and call him on it regardless of if i cash or not. Problem was he had  double my stack i tried to play hands and hed shove every time i made a move. i said to him why didnt you just check it and answer i got back was 'loser' so what can you do. somepeople are just that way. Anyway lesson learned -  dont expect anything when it comes to gamesmanship. I did it the other day held pkt 8s against sitter who was all in and other guy only had about 3 big blinds i hit a set and folded them so he would cash and still got the win.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    If you cant beat people who are away give up imo , seriously it does create a metagame sometimes with other players nicking there blinds just use position and bet most flops they should fold.

    never heard of a sitter before lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    Post the hand with stack sizes.

    There is abit of strategy involved in beating an away player in a dym bubble situation believe it or not ! ;) lol
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  • harding10harding10
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : i did think of it but had hit my q high flush and just had feeling that sitter would go all in double up and i would be all in next hand with rubbish so had to really was the first hand i actualy hit any thing above a pair and other guy just kept raising me all in every hand before when i hit pairs and such and didnt want to not cash. My fault in a way should of made a stand regardless of the sitter but it just put my game off. think the next time im just gonna have to bite the bullit and call him on it regardless of if i cash or not. Problem was he had  double my stack i tried to play hands and hed shove every time i made a move. i said to him why didnt you just check itand answer i got back was 'loser' so what can you do. somepeople are just that way. Anyway lesson learned -  dont expect anything when it comes to gamesmanship. I did it the other day held pkt 8s against sitter who was all in and other guy only had about 3 big blinds i hit a set and folded them so he would cash and still got the win.
    Posted by Dazler
    I wouldn't be telling people this if I were you.


    Personally I don't worry too much about who else cashes as long as I do.
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    yea i know i should of played it different just got undermy skin and put myself in a bad situation. Normaly wouldnt do that but you know sportsmanship and all that would rather give a player a chance rather than someone not playing.
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    wasnt double or nothing was only me other guy and 1 sitter left in normal sit n go
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : I wouldn't be telling people this if I were you. Personally I don't worry too much about who else cashes as long as I do.
    Posted by harding10
    well nothing untoward there was flush on the board and other guy was all in so kinda new i was beat and is why i folded mainly. But woulda hated to have taken live player against a non player. also i asked why he didnt check it after the hand was over and i was knocked out.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    lol how many threads do we get like this sorry dazler its part of the game would you rather they be there and play back? lmao thread
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    suppose its like if someone timed out on you or got disconnected you either steal his blinds or give the other player a chance to reconnect.
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    lol how many threads do we get like this sorry dazler its part of the game would you rather they be there and play back? lmao thread
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    no just wondered what people do in that situation. or find it anoying as i did at the time.
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  • kb245kb245
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : no just wondered what people do in that situation. or find it anoying as i did at the time.
    Posted by Dazler
     just make a note of who it was and give him loads of grief next time.not many people play sporting when it comes to money im afraid. 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    Post the hand please...????
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    actualy it was wierd that 1 player was sat out whole game and the other sat out until there were 3 off us left then decided to shove pre i think. while other live player with big stack folded . Could this have been colusion by 3 players? im not sure if ive had this or not so not able to spot them.
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  • kb245kb245
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    actualy it was wierd that 1 player was sat out whole game and the other sat out until there were 3 off us left then decided to shove pre i think. while other live player with big stack folded . Could this have been colusion by 3 players? im not sure if ive had this or not so not able to spot them.
    Posted by Dazler
    i doubt it. he was probably being clever and picking on you.with him having a large stack and u struggling he probably targeted you.some people delight in seeing people struggle.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : i doubt it. he was probably being clever and picking on you.with him having a large stack and u struggling he probably targeted you.some people delight in seeing people struggle.
    Posted by kb245
    The whole idea of the game of poker is to make life hard for people.

    If it was a normal sit and go, 1st place is worth alot more than 2nd. The big stacks job is to get all the chips. It's ridiculous to suggest he plays soft on the other guy until HU. Then starts the HU with more even chip stacks than he would should he have exploited the bubble situation properly. 

    In a dym it's totally different.

    WP big stack imo!.....

    Wud still like to see the hand though, seems you are reluctant to post it?
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  • kb245kb245
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : The whole idea of the game of poker is to make life hard for people. If it was a normal sit and go, 1st place is worth alot more than 2nd. The big stacks job is to get all the chips. It's ridiculous to suggest he plays soft on the other guy until HU. Then starts the HU with more even chip stacks than he would should he have exploited the bubble situation properly.  In a dym it's totally different. WP big stack imo!..... Wud still like to see the hand though, seems you are reluctant to post it?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    i wasnt suggesting big stack played soft .learn to read before opening your gob.there are ways of doing things.
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS : The whole idea of the game of poker is to make life hard for people. If it was a normal sit and go, 1st place is worth alot more than 2nd. The big stacks job is to get all the chips. It's ridiculous to suggest he plays soft on the other guy until HU. Then starts the HU with more even chip stacks than he would should he have exploited the bubble situation properly.  In a dym it's totally different. WP big stack imo!..... Wud still like to see the hand though, seems you are reluctant to post it?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    no not reluctant to post it i cant for some reason goes all weird when i cut and paste it and would have to sift through to find it. i did try and play him and ignore the sitter but couldnt call every all in with just a pair. I suppose you have a point and object of the game is to win and if he did check and let me win against the sitter i could have always made a crazy come back so you want the other player out for the win. was just anoying is all.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    I wanna see the hand history coz there's definitely strategy involved in playing an away player in a bubble situation three handed, even more so in a normal sng. Theres some things you can do to use the 'sitter' to gain an advantage, and also knowing what to do to stop the other guy using the sitter to his advantage.

    For example, if the bigstack is on the button, and the big blind is the sitter, his opening range becomes pretty much any 2 cards. So you can adjust/widen your re-shoving range to take advantage of this....

    Thats just one, theres a few more....


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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    ignore jj they obviously dont want to learn and prefer to moan

    KB why get so touchey he's right aswell well played bigstack its the way to play if your scared of busting why not put you under pressure. go ftw
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    I wanna see the hand history coz there's definitely strategy involved in playing an away player in a bubble situation three handed, even more so in a normal sng. Theres some things you can do to use the 'sitter' to gain an advantage, and also knowing what to do to stop the other guy using the sitter to his advantage. For example, if the bigstack is on the button, and the big blind is the sitter, his opening range becomes pretty much any 2 cards. So you can adjust/widen your re-shoving range to take advantage of this.... Thats just one, theres a few more....
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    yea my mistake was not making a stand and calling his shoves after i raised hands or maybe i shoulda shoved on him first to try and get the double up and be in controll. I tried to play the hands i had and shoulda looked at what his range was and not folded to every bluff.
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  • kb245kb245
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    ignore jj they obviously dont want to learn and prefer to moan KB why get so touchey he's right aswell well played bigstack its the way to play if your scared of busting why not put you under pressure. go ftw
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    y put pressure on a live player when thers people away,
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    ignore jj they obviously dont want to learn and prefer to moan KB why get so touchey he's right aswell well played bigstack its the way to play if your scared of busting why not put you under pressure. go ftw
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN[/QUOTE

    im posting this as want to know what people do in this senario, i was peed off at the time of righting this but at the same time wanted to see if people had a sense of fair play or not and what to do about players that sit out and how that effects your game when up against 1 other player and choices to either cash and wait for sitter to be blinded out and then play for the double up or some other stratagy. looking at it now i cant complain about losing but i do find it sometimes affects my game as it dosnt feel like a proper game. Dohhh is right and i take his comments positivly and has made me think about what to do in this situation. It dosnt happen often but will think about my play next time it does.
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  • rawhandrawhand
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Its official i HATE SITTERS:
    Post the hand with stack sizes. There is abit of strategy involved in beating an away player in a dym bubble situation believe it or not ! ;) lol
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Very true i play alot of DYMs and see alot of these so called sitters. I never call if i out of position or if i have dead cards, all you need to do is get your chips above this away player then fold let somone else do the calling unless you hit a big hand
    Trust me if you call the away player out of position you will lose, also if you feel lucky only call the sitter if you have an Ace in you hand. gl m8t
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