VbetHowMuch?

DOHHHHHHH

In previous few handS I'd doubled the same player up, they limped A3cc, I made it 6x from the sb w/ AQ, they floated an A 7 8 flop, then snap jammed when the turn was a 3.

Thats the only hand I'd seen, no previous notes.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
yupster69	Small blind		£0.20	£0.20	£22.81
rozybaby21	Big blind		£0.40	£0.60	£35.14
	Your hole cards	10 Q
Petrachek1	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£1.60	£2.20	£38.40
Bergman	Fold
yupster69	Fold
rozybaby21	Call		£1.20	£3.40	£33.94
Flop
		10 5 4
rozybaby21	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£2.55	£5.95	£35.85
rozybaby21	Call		£2.55	£8.50	£31.39
Turn
		9
rozybaby21	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£6.00	£14.50	£29.85
rozybaby21	Call		£6.00	£20.50	£25.39
River
		9
rozybaby21	Check
DOHHHHHHH

grantorino

I think its a clear check back if your only read is he called a bet with tpnk (not really a float?) and then jammed when he turned 2 pair, unless maybe hes seen you fire 3 barrells with air

percival09

Thin value, i'd probz check it back

if i was Vbetting i'd be betting something less than 50% of pot, around £7/8 .. think it's deffo a check though

debdobs_67

Agree with the check back here you cannot be sure what he has xx

Dudeskin8

Defo check.

unknown_username

Whats your plan if you v-bet and he comes over the top? Would you call him then or bet-fold?

I have to agree with the majority and prob check back then get annoyed when i have won the hand that i didnt bet the river!

corn_rat22

I just check, could never find the Vbet here

grantorino

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch?:

Whats your plan if you v-bet and he comes over the top? Would you call him then or bet-fold? I have to agree with the majority and prob check back then get annoyed when i have won the hand that i didnt bet the river!
Posted by DrSharp

Even if we win the hand that doesnt necessarily mean we can vbet river

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch?:

Thin value, i'd probz check it back if i was Vbetting i'd be betting something less than 50% of pot, around £7/8 .. think it's deffo a check though
Posted by percival09

This is what I was considering. 

Similar to my other hand I posted to day, I felt something was right, but I couldn't justify it.

I felt like I could get him to call 6/7 quid but couldn't think of any hands he could possibly call me with that I could beat, other than TJ!

....... ????

unknown_username

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch?:

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch? : Even if we win the hand that doesnt necessarily mean we can vbet river
Posted by grantorino

I know but its still annoying. Flip side is v-betting the river and then facing a shove. Looks like DOHHHHHH is ahead in this hand to me but i dont think i would v-bet the river even though its probably good.

percival09

don't think it's +ev to bet, K10 A10 are within his range, as are J10, 108 etc .. he could even just have a 5 or some PP like 77 .... if you had more reads on villain then you could profitably decide what's the best decision.checking and seeing what he's been calling you down with is probz best option, maybe losing value but picking up good info on his pre calling range/ how light he calls you down post flop

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch?:

don't think it's +ev to bet, K10 A10 are within his range, as are J10, 108 etc .. he could even just have a 5 or some PP like 77 .... if you had more reads on villain then you could profitably decide what's the best decision. checking and seeing what he's been calling you down with is probz best option, maybe losing value but picking up good info on his pre calling range/ how light he calls you down post flop
Posted by percival09

Pingggggg

percival09

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch?:

In Response to Re: VbetHowMuch? : Pingggggg
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

lol! take it you checked it down then yeah? 

DOHHHHHHH

Nah felt I could get another bet, so went for 6.50. 

Obviously a bad move long term though, I had a sinking feeling when he snap called, which probably means it was wrong and I got lucky.

grantorino

well he often has 66-88 here, sometimes Tx, very rarely better. We are always called by the better hands, so it depends how often JT,T8, pocket pairs make the call. Its pretty thin I think checking is prob better, but people love to call so idk