Right to call shove?

Prop60

From tonight's £100 gtd Deep Stack.

Villain had got a bit peeved with me raising into him all the time and reckoned he was just pushing back. Highly questionable for him to push with a gutshot straight draw, but was I right to call with my two overcards and a flush draw?

touchwoodSit out    GlenelgSmall blind 200.00200.0011830.00russ137Big blind 400.00600.007382.50 Your hole cardsAK   Prop60Raise 1600.002200.0013770.001964mark15Call 1600.003800.008500.00POKEY2011Fold    GlenelgFold    russ137Fold    Flop  6Q8   Prop60Bet 2850.006650.0010920.001964mark15All-in 8500.0015150.000.00Prop60All-in 10920.0026070.000.00Prop60Unmatched bet 5270.0020800.005270.00Prop60ShowAK   1964mark15Show910   Turn  10   River  6   1964mark15WinTwo Pairs, 10s and 6s20800.00 20800.0

Glenelg

In Response to Right to call shove?:

From tonight's £100 gtd Deep Stack. Villain had got a bit peeved with me raising into him all the time and reckoned he was just pushing back. Highly questionable for him to push with a gutshot straight draw, but was I right to call with my two overcards and a flush draw?Posted by Prop60

I remember this! I did think at the time I would have done the same, still do.
Pad

Prop60

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In Response to Right to call shove? : I remember this! I did think at the time I would have done the same, still do. Pad
Posted by Glenelg

Thanks Glen. I've had a look at a couple of odds calculators and if I'm reading them right I was still ahead after his 10 paired (hmm...that can't be right, can it?). I was certainly fav after the flop. Still, wouldn't be much of a game if the best hand pre-flop won every time.

Glenelg

In Response to Re: Right to call shove?:

In Response to Re: Right to call shove? : Thanks Glen. I've had a look at a couple of odds calculators and if I'm reading them right I was still ahead after his 10 paired (hmm...that can't be right, can it?). I was certainly fav after the flop. Still, wouldn't be much of a game if the best hand pre-flop won every time.
Posted by Prop60

No, I reckon you're 2-1 behind with paired 10's? From 2 -1 in front before.

Prop60

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In Response to Re: Right to call shove? : No, I reckon you're 2-1 behind with paired 10's? From 2 -1 in front before.
Posted by Glenelg

Thought I must be reading it wrong! It was a very complicated calculator!

Flippin' AK! I must lose 9/10. On my recent results I reckon I could make a value case for folding it pre!

debdobs_67

tbh prop with ure stack size of nearly 14k and blinds at only 200/400 i dont think you need to do a 4xbb raise at the start of the hand , but as played i reckon i would call / have to call after commiting 4450 in the pot already xx

grantorino

you have 71% equity on flop, 39% on turn

flop is a snapcall getting nearly 3/1

Dudeskin8

Raise sizing pre FTW, 900 for me. This is because you SHOULD be raising more at this stage so want your bluff raises to get through aswell, 4x every time is crazy at this stage as raise folding 1600 is narsty.

Flop is SNAPPITY SNAP CALL, you have over 10 bigs behind still for God's sake lol.

Prop60

In Response to Re: Right to call shove?:

Raise sizing pre FTW, 900 for me. This is because you SHOULD be raising more at this stage so want your bluff raises to get through aswell, 4x every time is crazy at this stage as raise folding 1600 is narsty. Flop is SNAPPITY SNAP CALL, you have over 10 bigs behind still for God's sake lol.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Lol Dude - to see what happened to my 10 bigs have a look at my contribution to Glenelg's "WTF" thread!

I have to say that I'm still learning and tend to go on instinct as far as value goes - can anyone recommend some reading/tips about basic value and equity calcs in-play - there never seems to be time!