Successful Bluffs - - Cash Tables

DTWBANDIT

Do i count as a succsesfull bluff?

No but seriously you need to know who to bluff and who not to. it might sound obv but its really important , also if your playing 4nl, 8nl no one folds so bluffing there would be usless imo. picks your spots and oppponants carefully.

DTWBANDIT

   Hi All

  I thought i'd start this thread as playing Bluffs is a part of Poker & something i'm still working on in my Cash Game (advice please) also maybe we could discuss the art of Bluffing to get a better understanding of it.

  Feel Free to post any Successful Bluffs


  Michae;
 
 

DTWBANDIT

   this is from a 4p/8p Table - - also it was a cery tight table


    
   

DTWBANDIT	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£5.10
xxx	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£0.97
	Your hole cards	7 10
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£1.54
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£4.46
xxx	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.36	£7.92
DTWBANDIT	Raise		£0.12	£0.48	£4.98
xxx	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.56	£1.46
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.64	£4.38
xxx	Call		£0.08	£0.72	£7.84
Flop
		3 A 6
DTWBANDIT	Bet		£0.16	£0.88	£4.82
xxx	Call		£0.16	£1.04	£1.30
xxx	Fold
xxx	Call		£0.16	£1.20	£7.68
Turn
		A
DTWBANDIT	Bet		£0.16	£1.36	£4.66
xxx	Call		£0.16	£1.52	£1.14
xxx	Fold
River
		4
DTWBANDIT	Bet		£0.64	£2.16	£4.02
xxx	Fold
DTWBANDIT	Muck
DTWBANDIT	Win		£1.40		£5.42
DTWBANDIT	Return		£0.64	£0.12	£6.06

iBLUFF

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    this is from a 4p/8p Table - - also it was a cery tight table          DTWBANDIT Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £5.10 xxx Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £0.97   Your hole cards 7 10       xxx Call   £0.08 £0.20 £1.54 xxx Call   £0.08 £0.28 £4.46 xxx Fold         xxx Call   £0.08 £0.36 £7.92 DTWBANDIT Raise   £0.12 £0.48 £4.98 xxx Fold         xxx Call   £0.08 £0.56 £1.46 xxx Call   £0.08 £0.64 £4.38 xxx Call   £0.08 £0.72 £7.84 Flop     3 A 6       DTWBANDIT Bet   £0.16 £0.88 £4.82 xxx Call   £0.16 £1.04 £1.30 xxx Fold         xxx Call   £0.16 £1.20 £7.68 Turn     A       DTWBANDIT Bet   £0.16 £1.36 £4.66 xxx Call   £0.16 £1.52 £1.14 xxx Fold         River     4       DTWBANDIT Bet   £0.64 £2.16 £4.02 xxx Fold         DTWBANDIT Muck         DTWBANDIT Win   £1.40   £5.42 DTWBANDIT Return   £0.64 £0.12 £6.06
Posted by DTWBANDIT

wow wp to get a bluff through at this level, it does take abit.

unknown_username

If your playing an experienced opponent then bluffing by betting over the pot or pushing wont always work and ur likely to get called.  A strong bet between 1/2 and 3/4 pot is more likely to work.
The opposite is more or less true for the in-experienced. As you rise through the tables you have to change ur methods. 

Of course it is cash and people do like a gamble, O know good live players who will call £200 with bottom pair if they have an inkling they may be getting bluffed, so depends who ur playing too and no saying in-experienced players arnt higher up the ladder.

TommyD

So difficult to explain the art of the bluff.  It's complicated, beautiful and risky.

Key factors to consider:

1)  Have a hand or tightish range of hands in your mind that you are representing and make your betting make sense for that range.  On this point avoid trying to rep sets against unknown players (there's a reason why these pay off so well, so why would repping them work a lot of the time?).

2)  Know your enemy.  Know what your enemy knows of you.  Are they likely to rebluff?  Are they going to consider you to be a serial bluffer?

3)  People like to call.  You don't make any money from folding and people hate to let someone else get one over on them.  This makes a random person more likely to look for a way to call you than to look for a way to fold.  And as it's cash there is no tourney life so people can just call you to find out and reload.  You have to convince them to fold while not making it look like you want them to fold.  Tricky stuff eh?

4)  If you get caught and your hand looks silly (and we all do get caught every now and again)don't be discouraged, just assess if your action would have worked enough times to make it profitable.

TENOFSPADE

       dont ask me ............i always get it sooooooooooooo wrong lol                i always do it ,when they   got the nuts 

GREGHOGG

one i noted down a few days ago. god knows how i got it thru. not sure what im repping!

alias15 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £16.58 dblcyclop Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £21.35   Your hole cards 3 9       GT380 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £18.77 GREGHOGG Raise  £0.80 £1.30 £93.49 nottybay Fold     alias15 Call  £0.70 £2.00 £15.88 dblcyclop Call  £0.60 £2.60 £20.75 GT380 Call  £0.60 £3.20 £18.17 Flop    2 J 6       alias15 Check     dblcyclop Check     GT380 Check     GREGHOGG Bet  £1.80 £5.00 £91.69 alias15 Fold     dblcyclop Call  £1.80 £6.80 £18.95 GT380 Call  £1.80 £8.60 £16.37 Turn    A       dblcyclop Check     GT380 Check     GREGHOGG Check     River    7       dblcyclop Check     GT380 Check     GREGHOGG Bet  £6.45 £15.05 £85.24 dblcyclop Fold     GT380 Fold     GREGHOGG Show 3 9    GREGHOGG Win  £8.17  £93.41 GREGHOGG Return  £6.45 £0.43 £99.86

DTWBANDIT

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So difficult to explain the art of the bluff.  It's complicated, beautiful and risky. Key factors to consider: 1)  Have a hand or tightish range of hands in your mind that you are representing and make your betting make sense for that range.  On this point avoid trying to rep sets against unknown players (there's a reason why these pay off so well, so why would repping them work a lot of the time?). 2)  Know your enemy.  Know what your enemy knows of you.  Are they likely to rebluff?  Are they going to consider you to be a serial bluffer? 3)  People like to call.  You don't make any money from folding and people hate to let someone else get one over on them.  This makes a random person more likely to look for a way to call you than to look for a way to fold.  And as it's cash there is no tourney life so people can just call you to find out and reload.  You have to convince them to fold while not making it look like you want them to fold.  Tricky stuff eh? 4)  If you get caught and your hand looks silly (and we all do get caught every now and again)don't be discouraged, just assess if your action would have worked enough times to make it profitable.
Posted by TommyD

 Hi Tommy

  Many thanks for your Advice (Very Helpful) i tend to use 4p/8p for practice & then move to 10p/20p which is where i'm comfortable at, tho i do play 5p/10p on MasterCash (saturdays) mainly to test myself against players like Greghogg & Dohhhhhhh plus have a bit of Fun with it

Dudeskin8

WOW DTW that 8NL hand is crazy !

Raise pre is a no-no, if you want to raise with that hand it needs to be on button and also needs to be a LOT bigger imo, but obvz this is micro so danny raise with 710 lolz.

16p doesn't count as a cbet.

After 16p is called danny bet it again lolz.

Villian has 14 BB's behind so I'm utterly amazed this got through on river.

Play like this is a good way of burning money imo.

Finally if it was a tight table move tables and sit on the new table with a full stack.

DTWBANDIT

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WOW DTW that 8NL hand is crazy ! Raise pre is a no-no, if you want to raise with that hand it needs to be on button and also needs to be a LOT bigger imo, but obvz this is micro so danny raise with 710 lolz. 16p doesn't count as a cbet. After 16p is called danny bet it again lolz. Villian has 14 BB's behind so I'm utterly amazed this got through on river. Play like this is a good way of burning money imo. Finally if it was a tight table move tables and sit on the new table with a full stack.
Posted by Dudeskin8

 Cheers Dude thanks for that m8 it makes a lot of sense ty

splashies

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one i noted down a few days ago. god knows how i got it thru. not sure what im repping! alias15 Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £16.58 dblcyclop Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £21.35   Your hole cards 3 9       GT380 Call   £0.20 £0.50 £18.77 GREGHOGG Raise   £0.80 £1.30 £93.49 nottybay Fold         alias15 Call   £0.70 £2.00 £15.88 dblcyclop Call   £0.60 £2.60 £20.75 GT380 Call   £0.60 £3.20 £18.17 Flop     2 J 6       alias15 Check         dblcyclop Check         GT380 Check         GREGHOGG Bet   £1.80 £5.00 £91.69 alias15 Fold         dblcyclop Call   £1.80 £6.80 £18.95 GT380 Call   £1.80 £8.60 £16.37 Turn     A       dblcyclop Check         GT380 Check         GREGHOGG Check         River     7       dblcyclop Check         GT380 Check         GREGHOGG Bet   £6.45 £15.05 £85.24 dblcyclop Fold         GT380 Fold         GREGHOGG Show 3 9       GREGHOGG Win   £8.17   £93.41 GREGHOGG Return   £6.45 £0.43 £99.86
Posted by GREGHOGG

Another stack size brag.....

With regards to the topic of the thread, i try to focus more on bluff catching than bluffing myself.