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Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!

ACEGOONERACEGOONER
edited July 2011 in Poker Chat
Im sorry to start a new thread about this but over the last three days sky poker have managed to make a complete and utter bodge up with regards to the roll out of this new format of sngs.

Initially the £5.50 and £11 Turbo DYMs where highlighted in the DYM tab, a good move which saw instant results, at any one time there would be at least 10-15 running. At one stage dohhh was 8 tabling these!

Then they where moved to the speed section and the interested died. After a few rumbles on the board yesterday they where reinstated to the DYM section. And again for some inexplicable reason they where moved to the speed tab again but this time they wernt highlighted and it was a pain to sift them out amongst what was mainly hu games. 

Sorry sky from a business perspective this is a schoolboy error and a massive own goal. Clearly there is massive demand for these sngs but they must be clear and visible on the site. For me they should have been highlighted in the DYM section for at least a week to build up a following. Then you could just integrate them with the other dyms.

Its basic business common sense. Sir Alan would have picked up on this thing and dare I say what the outcome would have been, but you know the catchphrase!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sort this out. I will play hundreds of these a week and im sure others will too, but the traffic has to be there.     
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    +1 - even @ 10% rake, which at first I thought would never work, they were starting every couple of minutes.

    There's no reason for them to not be highlighted.

    Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz re-highlight them :D:D:D


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  • ALFIE123ALFIE123
    edited July 2011
    With you on this one Gooner. I stumbled across it on Saturday and played about 20 on Saturday then couldnt find it again on Sunday on the DYM tab. Found it tho in the end.  Seemed as tho the same players were playing all the time which makes you wonder if many people know about them.
    Problem i found was after gane was finished and was offered to re-register for new game, twice i was put into a standard DYM. Mega addictive game and hope they dont mess it up.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    BIG +1 from me

    Keep highlighted as they run withing minutes they are really popular and by not having them at the top you probably missing a trick sky

    also rake should be 5% as we can finish 4-5 in time takes for a regular dym and higher variance look into it please ty
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    With you on this one Gooner. I stumbled across it on Saturday and played about 20 on Saturday then couldnt find it again on Sunday on the DYM tab. Found it tho in the end.  Seemed as tho the same players were playing all the time which makes you wonder if many people know about them. Problem i found was after gane was finished and was offered to re-register for new game, twice i was put into a standard DYM. Mega addictive game and hope they dont mess it up.
    Posted by ALFIE123
    That's why they put them back into the 'Speed' section. If they go back into the DYM section then you'll (all) have to live with the re-register thing (or avoid it) as the software can't currently tell the difference between the two types of DYM game.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    If we have to sacrifice either them being highlighted, or the auto re-reg feature, I'm sure most players would prefer them to be in the highlighted section as they're easy to reg for the next game manually as long as they're highlighted.

    Don't see why we can't have both though.
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  • MachkaMachka
    edited July 2011
    I've pointed this thread in the direction of "Da Sky Poker Management" (in the words of Hale and Pace).
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : That's why they put them back into the 'Speed' section. If they go back into the DYM section then you'll (all) have to live with the re-register thing (or avoid it) as the software can't currently tell the difference between the two types of DYM game.
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    But this in its own right isnt a reason to put them in the speed tab is it? Its a question of reclicking on the highlighted section rather than being redirected through automatically. It is a bug in the system, but it can be overcome by a little common sense while sky sort things out. 

    I have rung the priority line again and spoke to someone called James who said that the poker team could not understand why they turbo dyms had been moved to the speed section and they would sort this out this morning. 

    I have been sat in one turbo dym for an hour and it hasnt filled up yet. 
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    If we have to sacrifice either them being highlighted, or the auto re-reg feature, I'm sure most players would prefer them to be in the highlighted section as they're easy to reg for the next game manually as long as they're highlighted. Don't see why we can't have both though.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    This i dont even use the quick register thing as you never know wat your going to be put in but i use the sticky at top ;)
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    I've pointed this thread in the direction of "Da Sky Poker Management" (in the words of Hale and Pace).
    Posted by Machka
    If sky want someone with a bit of business nouse then im available! But at a fee mind!
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    I've pointed this thread in the direction of "Da Sky Poker Management" (in the words of Hale and Pace).
    Posted by Machka
    please dont use that phrase again tilts me alot! my home game the person who organises goes on about DA Management etc thinks its funny but its not!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    I spose it will be the job of someone in "the office" to come in and check how these have performed over the weekend.

    Once he recovers from falling off his chair, he'll prob fix all the issues straight away.

    You'd have thought so anyway.
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  • MachkaMachka
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : please dont use that phrase again tilts me alot! my home game the person who organises goes on about DA Management etc thinks its funny but its not!
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Take note DOHHHHHHH, Dylan, Hoggers etc, for chat box fun. ;-)
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    Ok people power got the job half done. The £11 buyin is highlighted under all and speed. Now please sky do what it says on the tin, put it in its rightful place ie DYM TAB!

    Ive got a sparky over to fix my shower, so when thats done im going to register for a turbo dym. Hopefully it wont take an hour to fill!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    Thats the most important bit anyway, N1 sky :D

    Btw, would the location of the games in the lobby effect how they are classified on skope?

    I just skoped the stats of 2 ppl for turbo dyms, who I know for a fact played loads last night.....

    Their stats are exactly the same as they were yesterday morning.

    Any ideas????
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    Thats the most important bit anyway, N1 sky :D Btw, would the location of the games in the lobby effect how they are classified on skope? I just skoped the stats of 2 ppl for turbo dyms, who I know for a fact played loads last night..... Their stats are exactly the same as they were yesterday morning. Any ideas????
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Im sure its because sky keep ponsing around. My stats are correct for all games just when I drill down it shows no games played yesterday evening.
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2011

    BUMP.

    Please move these back into the DYM section.

    "The re-registering@the end of the game" is still a problem in the speed tab anyway because half the time it registers you for a speed stt instead! So you have2check that it hasn't done this and de-register (and then re-register for the turbo DYM) in any case.

    SO PLEASE put these in the DYM lobby (they are DYM's!) where they belong - and they will get FAR more players and rake for SKY - every1's a winner! 8- />
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    BUMP. Please move these back into the DYM section. "The re-registering@the end of the game" is still a problem in the speed tab anyway because half the time it registers you for a speed stt instead! So you have2check that it hasn't done this and de-register (and then re-register for the turbo DYM) in any case. SO PLEASE put these in the DYM lobby (they are DYM's!) where they belong - and they will get FAR more players and rake for SKY - every1's a winner! 8- />
    Posted by JingleMa
    How are you doing in these JM and other regs? - I cba constantly skoping every1 lol - But very interested to hear if people think it's gonna be able to grind a profit from these long term?

    How many points are you making/hoping to make??

    I feel I'm prob guna get crushed in em tomorrow after running good on sat! 

    hmmmmm.............
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : How are you doing in these JM and other regs? - I cba constantly skoping every1 lol - But very interested to hear if people think it's gonna be able to grind a profit from these long term? How many points are you making/hoping to make?? I feel I'm prob guna get crushed in em tomorrow after running good on sat!  hmmmmm.............
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I'm just under break even - but gettin plenty of points playing the £5/£10 games.

    Might make priority club1st time this month! (but def 8k if not).

    I'm still makin loads of mistakes on these (so no change to my normal DYM game then) but am learning all the time so hope to improve my winrate.

    You seem to kill these DYM's everytime you play em!

    I remember you posting ages ago they were the spawn of the devil lol.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : I'm just under break even - but gettin plenty of points playing the £5/£10 games. Might make priority club1st time this month! (but def 8k if not). I'm still makin loads of mistakes on these (so no change to my normal DYM game then) but am learning all the time so hope to improve my winrate. You seem to kill these DYM's everytime you play em! I remember you posting ages ago they were the spawn of the devil lol.
    Posted by JingleMa
    Luv ure honesty mate lol and i hope ya run better ;) xxx
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : Luv ure honesty mate lol and i hope ya run better ;) xxx
    Posted by debdobs_67
    Thanks Debs, I hope so2! ;- />
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    I don't think it's gonna be possible to make anything from them @ 10% rake, judging from the results of the good regs over the last couple of days.

    The only way they're gonna work is for huge C4P grinding, like 15k+, turning my usual 4k into 8k or whatever just isn't gonna be worth it.

    So may quit while I'm ahead, and Saturday would be a 1 off!!

    Can't see them reducing rake while they fly off the shelf like they have been doing :(
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    I don't think it's gonna be possible to make anything from them @ 10% rake, judging from the results of the good regs over the last couple of days. The only way they're gonna work is for huge C4P grinding, like 15k+, turning my usual 4k into 8k or whatever just isn't gonna be worth it. So may quit while I'm ahead, and Saturday would be a 1 off!! Can't see them reducing rake while they fly off the shelf like they have been doing :(
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I sincerely hope you're wrong!

    I've made like 2k points over the last 3days! (obv this includes the wkend so I'll burn myself right out if I keep that up working full time aswell - aint gonna happen).

    But still... plenty of points2be made!

    I'll keep trying to find the edges and see if I can up my winrate2 - wud be nice!

    I'll re-assess@end of month anyways.


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  • SHANXTASHANXTA
    edited July 2011
    these obv shud b in dym section, it makes absolutely no sense to have them anywhere else

    i doubt many regs use the 'reg 4 another game; at the end of sng's anyway as its so unreliable

    i can see an argument to having them highlighted for up to a week so that players can see the new edition, but after that they have no need to be highlighted as I don't see why they should take priority over any other game 
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    I don't think it's gonna be possible to make anything from them @ 10% rake, judging from the results of the good regs over the last couple of days. The only way they're gonna work is for huge C4P grinding, like 15k+, turning my usual 4k into 8k or whatever just isn't gonna be worth it. So may quit while I'm ahead, and Saturday would be a 1 off!! Can't see them reducing rake while they fly off the shelf like they have been doing :(
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    The added complication is because sky have put them in the speed category it is now impossible to drill down the scope stats to isolate only dym turbos. I have a feeling that ive made a tidy profit but cant be sure. I would agree the rake kills the profit unless you get at least 16k c4p. You may remember my thread providing the percentage rakeback figs, basically the more you play the less the 10% rake has an impact on roi.

    There are people who only play standard dym such as 18and5time and they are showing healthy profits. It is possible but you really have to understand the technical aspects of the game, sometimes folding strong hands in certain situations is profitable in the long run.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : I sincerely hope you're wrong! I've made like 2k points over the last 3days! (obv this includes the wkend so I'll burn myself right out if I keep that up working full time aswell - aint gonna happen). But still... plenty of points2be made! I'll keep trying to find the edges and see if I can up my winrate2 - wud be nice! I'll re-assess@end of month anyways.
    Posted by JingleMa
    JingeMa you run golden vs me seriously lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : The added complication is because sky have put them in the speed category it is now impossible to drill down the scope stats to isolate only dym turbos. I have a feeling that ive made a tidy profit but cant be sure. I would agree the rake kills the profit unless you get at least 16k c4p. You may remember my thread providing the percentage rakeback figs, basically the more you play the less the 10% rake has an impact on roi. There are people who only play standard dym such as 18and5time and they are showing healthy profits. It is possible but you really have to understand the technical aspects of the game, sometimes folding strong hands in certain situations is profitable in the long run.
    Posted by ACEGOONER
    Yeh I was basing my speculation on the assumption that I play an almost perfect strategy.

    even then, I'm not sure it's going to be possible.

    I've decided to have another go today anyway, as long as I don't lose £95+ then I'll be up on the experiment, so I'll see how I go.

    Only on 3.2k points which is alot for me, but still insignificant in terms of C4P grinding.
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : Yeh I was basing my speculation on the assumption that I play an almost perfect strategy. even then, I'm not sure it's going to be possible. I've decided to have another go today anyway, as long as I don't lose £95+ then I'll be up on the experiment, so I'll see how I go. Only on 3.2k points which is alot for me, but still insignificant in terms of C4P grinding.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Well im gonna be the guinea pig and carry on the experiment dohhhh. Lets see the results after 1000 games. That is a decent sample size but I can only analyse the last 250 games!

    I think im about 100 quid up after about 140 games.
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa
    edited July 2011

    I've played a couple of these and i just dont see any real edge against most people. After 4 mins it just comes down to winning 60 - 40 either way.

    I've done fairly well at standard DYM recently aswell

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note!:
    In Response to Re: Turbo Charged DYMs Fiasco - Sky Take Note! : Well im gonna be the guinea pig and carry on the experiment dohhhh. Lets see the results after 1000 games. That is a decent sample size but I can only analyse the last 250 games! I think im about 100 quid up after about 140 games.
    Posted by ACEGOONER
    Thats about the same as me, slightly better.

    There may be hope yet then......

    You can filter for like dyms for the last week cant you? - And get your profit/loss? Or u guna start recording manually?

    Have you played them through the afternoon on a weekday yet? say 2pm - 6pm on a weekday? are there many running?


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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited July 2011

    Just watched a £11 game....the one u were discussing loans in AG, after u bust.....

    I saw....

    An open limp on the button 5 handed @ 200/400 from a 1.1k stack with KQo...

    A fold on the bubble from the small blind @ 200/400, when the BB was all in for 270 total.

    A shove into a dry side pot from the big stack with 2nd pair, when the short stack was all in and called in 2 places.

    The above 3 plays were made by 3 different players.

    There MUST be an edge with plonkers like that around, I'll convince myself eventually :D:D:D


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