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TSP Lite League - Feedback thread
Hi everyone,
Last night was the last week of the TSP Lite League and thought it would be a good opportunity to gauge everyones thoughts on the tournie/league as a whole, so that if Sky do decide to run something similar again then they will have some ideas to go with.
So please post your thoughts here such as...
Time...was 7.30 too early? Would 8/9 be better?
Day...we chose Wednesday as it is a fairly quiet day on the site...is this ok? Would Tuesday be a good day too?
Buy in...was £1.10 right or too small? Should we mirror the DTD which is 2.20/3.30 I think? Maybe a 5.50 league?
Length of league/format...8 weeks too long? Was the format ok to understand? Everyone happy with the average of your top 5 scores?
Prizes...well hopefully no one has any feedback about them as they were pretty awesome!
And anything else that comes to mind.
Also well done to the top 5 in the league who are:
whoareya £220 Sunday Roller Seat
DTWBANDIT £110 Sky Roller Seat
jjjach £55 Primo Seat
lawro19810 £33 Bounty Hunter Seat
rawhand £22 Main Event Seat
Wish you all the best in your events and hope that you can turn these free entries into some decent cashes! Would be epic if someone could take one of these down for a total outlay of £8.80 MAX!
Finally just wanna say thanks for supporting the league, it was a lot of fun hosting my own tournies on Sky and it is something that I hope to do again in the future...and would also recommend it to all fellow members of Team Sky Poker, both old and new. And a big shout out to Scouse_Red who put in a lot of work into the scoring system of the league and also railing duties too....oh and to Sky for organising the league and prizes in the first place which made for a great event!
Thanks,
Ryan
Last night was the last week of the TSP Lite League and thought it would be a good opportunity to gauge everyones thoughts on the tournie/league as a whole, so that if Sky do decide to run something similar again then they will have some ideas to go with.
So please post your thoughts here such as...
Time...was 7.30 too early? Would 8/9 be better?
Day...we chose Wednesday as it is a fairly quiet day on the site...is this ok? Would Tuesday be a good day too?
Buy in...was £1.10 right or too small? Should we mirror the DTD which is 2.20/3.30 I think? Maybe a 5.50 league?
Length of league/format...8 weeks too long? Was the format ok to understand? Everyone happy with the average of your top 5 scores?
Prizes...well hopefully no one has any feedback about them as they were pretty awesome!
And anything else that comes to mind.
Also well done to the top 5 in the league who are:
whoareya £220 Sunday Roller Seat
DTWBANDIT £110 Sky Roller Seat
jjjach £55 Primo Seat
lawro19810 £33 Bounty Hunter Seat
rawhand £22 Main Event Seat
Wish you all the best in your events and hope that you can turn these free entries into some decent cashes! Would be epic if someone could take one of these down for a total outlay of £8.80 MAX!
Finally just wanna say thanks for supporting the league, it was a lot of fun hosting my own tournies on Sky and it is something that I hope to do again in the future...and would also recommend it to all fellow members of Team Sky Poker, both old and new. And a big shout out to Scouse_Red who put in a lot of work into the scoring system of the league and also railing duties too....oh and to Sky for organising the league and prizes in the first place which made for a great event!
Thanks,
Ryan
Comments
despite five great prizes worth £440 and £250 x 8 guaranteed tournaments the numbers have been poor, haven't been close to making the gtd in the six i played and with only 87 runners last night i don't think sky will look at this as a success or something worth repeating.
now in the hope they do rerun it.
how well was it advertised as i'm on the forum daily and i didn't notice this until the 3rd week. (which is obviously the reason i didn't win it :-))
day, time, and 5 of 8 format were fine with me but would increase entry to £2 or £3 because as so many people seem to have enjoyed playing this i don't think they would mind paying a little extra and this would cover sky's gtd and might encourage them to leave the prizes as they are.
big thanks to scotty and souse red for running it so well.
achill
An absolutely excellent idea, managed a few week, but BR would not go up, so had to stop
the threads were put up either the day before or the day of the tournie. during its first few weeks there were twitter/facebook posts made. althought there could have been more done, yes.
i will admit that when i was in Vegas i wasn't able to put in as much attention to it.
think that the lack of runners last night was because a lot of people were out of the running for the league prizes and thus it didn't appeal to quite as many. the first 4 weeks all got between 150 and 210 runners.
thanks for the input. i have every faith that Sky will run more TSP related leagues/tournies and therefore it is important that you all put your views forward.
Love to see it run again. Keeping it to £1.10 gives more lower stakes players a chance to play against some of the better known players on the site.
Really good to see a Team Sky Poker member get this off the ground and up the profile of the TSP team, as always well supported by Sky with fantastic prizes.
Credit to Scouse, the man with magic spreadsheet! (How do you concatenate 2 integers within a triple cell merge?)
Dave
Something that does need to be looked at IMO is a way to keep interest in the competition going in the latter stages of the event as I certainly noticed a drop off in players in the latter stages of the league even though there was a huge overlay in the prize pool. Possibly the introduction of a weekly prize, of entry into the main TSP game, as well as the overall prize would work.
1. The thread needs to be up a little sooner & "bumped" regularly.
2. Put the tourny in highlighted area
3. Change Name - TSP "OPEN" Lite League (Less Confusion)
4. Entry Fee - £2.20 with added free mini open entry or TSP Classic each week if it reaches its guarantee. This may encourage people to still have a go in the later stages even if they can't win the league.
5. Encourage more TSP Players to enter. (We all like playin the big guns)
These are my suggestions and are open to change, tweeks and opinions.
I would like to echo one of Trevs points in that it would have been nice to see more TSPers participating
With your average, if it runs again you may even take it down
Well Done to Ryan for coming up with the Idea was a Great Comp & to Chris for the Updates
I really enjoyed the buy-in & Structure also i like the idea by Pokertrev points 1. & 4. I really hope that you get to run another one
btw Ryan have sent you a pm re: my sky roller prize (£110) could i play it on thursday 28th July (next week)
Cheers m8
I agree that it could be highlighted more and i would be prepared to pay a little more as prizes are real good.Just like other players i would also like to play against the big guns but how to commit them to playing in a least five weeks i suppose could be quite hard.Saying that i still got to share same table with some good players.Take it it's down to sky poker to decide whether it's worth it.I would play another one and i'm sure others would too.Thanks again scotty for this tourney and cheers scouse red.Could i play in this sunday primo please.
I wouldn't argue against increasing the buyin though but having said that, the £1.10 deepstack usually has a bigger field than the £2.20 deepstack so it's probably best to leave it as is.
I think alot of players genuinely didn't know there was a league attached to this with prizes on offer. There are still many players who never look at the forums.
Well done to whoareya and all of the other prize winners.
Thanks also to Chris for doing the league tables and scotty for coming up with the idea.
Further comments:
1) Start time was perfect, nice to kick off before the main event and bigger mtt's.
2) Wednesday was good, Tuesday would also work, maybe you could run a TSP Lite with the slightly higher buy in of £3.3 or £5.50 on the Tuesday.
3) Buy in of £1.10 made it open to everyone, though with a £1.10 buy in the tourney may well have been dismissed by some of the bigger tourney players, improved promotion of the associated league and prizes may help here.
4) Length of League and average scores was good, to keep a wider interest it definitely shouldn't be any less than 8 weeks.
5) Couldn't fault the prizes, to be honest they were the carrot that persuaded me to enter the TSP Lite from the second week. (I didn't realise the league existed when TSP Lite was launched).
6) Further idea - If Sky would like to see a long life to the TSP Lite format and its league:
How about the addition of a 'champions league' with each winner from 6 leagues (over 48 weeks), playing off in a final table for a final bonus prize of an SPT seat.
Or if 48 weeks is too long, take the top 2 from 3 leagues (24 weeks) or top 3 from 2 leagues (16 weeks) and these players get to play for an SPT seat.
This rewards loyalty and gives lower stake players a real chance to get into a SPT event.
Sky is a business and it cost them £2440 to run this in prizes and guarantees and they ended up losing around £1000 so why would they run it exactly the same again.
No successful business runs a lose making venture they either scrap it or run it again with reduced overheads and increased profits.
That means guarantees and prizes will come down and buy in's will go up.
I would be delighted if they ran it again in the same format but i'm a realist and don't expect sky to give their money away.
achill