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What are the odds?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
edited October 2009 in Poker Chat
Of flopping 2-pair with 2 unpaired cards?
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    To get precisely two pairs: 48/1 approx.
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  • 35suited35suited
    edited October 2009
    Pairing both live cards when you are not holding a pair (e.g., you hold a hand like AQ and your opponent does not have an A or Q, so you want to know the odds of seeing both an A and Q on the flop)2.1% (46.3 to 1)
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    Pairing both live cards when you are not holding a pair (e.g., you hold a hand like AQ and your opponent does not have an A or Q, so you want to know the odds of seeing both an A and Q on the flop) 2.1% (46.3 to 1)
    Posted by 35suited
    I'll stick with my 48.5 to 1.
    I've queried a few figures on tworags.com (where I think you got this from) and had no response.

    I arrived at my figure by saying that the odds are:

    6/50 * 3/49 * 44/48 * 3 = 0.0202 or 48.5 to 1.

    To explain the figures, you can hit any of the 6 cards that pair one of your hole cards. Then one of the 3 cards that pair your second hole card and then the third card must be one of the remaining 44 cards that match neither of your hole cards. Finally, the cards can appear on the flop in any of 3 sequences.

    I'm happy to be corrected, as always.
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  • offshootoffshoot
    edited October 2009
    50/50. it either happens or it doesnt
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    50/50. it either happens or it doesnt
    Posted by offshoot
    LOL--n1---please post in the thread called "ARE YOU A NUTTER"--THANKS M8--LOL
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    To get precisely two pairs: 48/1 approx.
    Posted by MereNovice
    HI MERENOVICE--am just doing a favour for a fella (booboo) in area 51--he would love to know the odds on 14 blacks in a row  on a roulette table--perhaps you could help--cheers
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  • diablo_pezdiablo_pez
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    In Response to Re: What are the odds? : HI MERENOVICE--am just doing a favour for a fella (booboo) in area 51--he would love to know the odds on 14 blacks in a row  on a roulette table--perhaps you could help--cheers
    Posted by oynutter
    in reality, nigh-on impossible....

    on skyvegas, fairly short-odds assuming you put ur money on red every time....
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited October 2009
    its 48.567/1
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    In Response to Re: What are the odds? : HI MERENOVICE--am just doing a favour for a fella (booboo) in area 51--he would love to know the odds on 14 blacks in a row  on a roulette table--perhaps you could help--cheers
    Posted by oynutter
    16,384 to 1.
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    It's 2 to the power 14 which is 16,384 to 1.
    This is 2 * 2 * ... * 2 where there are 14 2's.
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  • diablo_pezdiablo_pez
    edited October 2009
    18/37 x 18/37 .... not 18/36
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    It's 2 to the power 14 which is 16,384 to 1. This is 2 * 2 * ... * 2 where there are 14 2's.
    Posted by MereNovice
    I no longer play Roulette, but does the existence of "ZERO" not affect these odds?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    18/37 x 18/37 .... not 18/36
    Posted by diablo_pez
    Yes, that was, I suppose, the Point I tried to make. Badly.
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    Actually, my figure's incorrect because there are not just reds and blacks on a roulette table, are there?
    I'm not familiar with roulette but there is generally a 0  which is neither red or black, right? Also, on some tables there is an 00 too.

    Assuming that the table has 37 slots of which 18 are black, the odds are 24,044 to 1.
    If the table has 38 slots of which 18 are black, the odds are 34,926 to 1.
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  • diablo_pezdiablo_pez
    edited October 2009
    pretty slim...
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    I see that two people (at least) have already corrected me - apologies, I've never played roulette. :-)
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    Actually, my figure's incorrect because there are not just reds and blacks on a roulette table, are there? I'm not familiar with roulette but there is generally a 0  which is neither red or black, right? Also, on some tables there is an 00 too. Assuming that the table has 37 slots of which 18 are black, the odds are 24,044 to 1. If the table has 38 slots of which 18 are black, the odds are 34,926 to 1.
    Posted by MereNovice
    Right!

    So, aasume 1-36 are either Red or Black, & ZERO is neither.

    So, 37 numbers, not 36, but only 18 Reds & 18 Blacks.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    pretty slim...
    Posted by diablo_pez
    Lol, correct!

    More chance of Orford winning a Tourney.

    Or MereNovice beating my KQ.
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  • diablo_pezdiablo_pez
    edited October 2009
    i had 13 blacks in a row doubling up on red

    14th spin i hit and i've never played again lol
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    In Response to Re: What are the odds? : Lol, correct! More chance of Orford winning a Tourney. Or MereNovice beating my KQ.
    Posted by Tikay10
    As all mathematicians know, the odds of that are exactly infinite!
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009
    cheers--lads--i will point him here---he was playing the double up system and got very disillusioned when 14 blacks in row
    came--not sure if this knowledge will cheer him up though--lol
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009
    heres a good one for you merenovice--how much would you need to have in your bankroll to play the double up system for a fiver a spin and have a million to one chance of losing your stash?  (system is to keep betting on blk till you win--doubling your stake each time if you miss)
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    heres a good one for you merenovice--how much would you need to have in your bankroll to play the double up system for a fiver a spin and have a million to one chance of losing your stash?  (system is to keep betting on blk till you win--doubling your stake each time if you miss)
    Posted by oynutter
    I guess this means betting, £5, £10, £20, £40 etc.
    The answer would be roughly £5 million pounds.

    On a 37 slot roulette wheel, the odds of 19 consecutive blacks is 882,379 to 1 and the odds of 20 consecutive blacks is 1,813,779 to 1.

    If you repeatedly doubled up you would be betting £2,621,440 on the 20th spin and you would have "invested" a total of £5,242,875 trying to win £5.

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  • Hale72Hale72
    edited October 2009
    Are you any relation to Stephen Hawking Merenovice?
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: What are the odds?:
    In Response to Re: What are the odds? : I guess this means betting, £5, £10, £20, £40 etc. The answer would be roughly £5 million pounds. On a 37 slot roulette wheel, the odds of 19 consecutive blacks is 882,379 to 1 and the odds of 20 consecutive blacks is 1,813,779 to 1. If you repeatedly doubled up you would be betting £2,621,440 on the 20th spin and you would have "invested" a total of £5,242,875 trying to win £5.
    Posted by MereNovice
    brilliant--thanks mate---was gonna start saving up tomoro---might just give it a miss--how would you be feeling on that last spin--lol--lol--pokers a good game though--init!!--lol
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