Play AA at your peril

Jimbobadob

Twice at the weekend at important stages of a tourney, now the cash tables have a laugh at my expense. Shoot me down for the first one but the second one was against a player that played in probably 90% of hands for well over 2 hours and there is no way he had a q.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancetiadogSmall blind £0.10£0.10£18.26xxxBig blind £0.20£0.30£19.66xSit out     Your hole cardsAA   xFold    JimbobadobRaise £0.60£0.90£22.37xFold    xFold    xxxCall £0.40£1.30£19.26Flop  325   xxxBet £1.30£2.60£17.96JimbobadobCall £1.30£3.90£21.07Turn  Q   xxxBet £3.90£7.80£14.06JimbobadobCall £3.90£11.70£17.17River  6   xxxBet £5.85£17.55£8.21JimbobadobCall £5.85£23.40£11.32xxxShow66   JimbobadobMuckAA   xxxWinThree 6s£22.23 £30.44


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancexSmall blind £0.10£0.10£36.16JimbobadobBig blind £0.20£0.30£20.02 Your hole cardsAA   xFold    xFold    xxxCall £0.20£0.50£5.21xFold    xRaise £0.60£1.10£35.56JimbobadobRaise £1.60£2.70£18.42xxxCall £1.60£4.30£3.61xCall £1.10£5.40£34.46Flop  <ul class="plyrcard" style="list-style-position:inside;margin:-5px 0px;zoom:1;list-style-type:none;padding

PiAnOpLaYa

in the 1st hand why are you not re-raising him on that flop? You deserve too lose with aces playing like that

2nd hand you cant get away from

Dudeskin8

1st hand raise flop obvz.

2nd hand just stick him all in on flop, plays same obvz.

Jimbobadob

I really dont know why i didnt re-raise flop or turn, maybe i knew what was coming. Even with a re-raise i think he is calling it so maybe i saved myself i bit of cash.

chevy_plym

Bigger preflop bet for me both times. I've been caught out too many times. First handi think he calls a post flop raise but i'm defo all in on the turn . He can only call with a set or paired Q with a big kicker maybe?

unknown_username

hand 1: raise on the flop or shove the turn

hand 2: shove the flop

DOHHHHHHH

Hand 2 I wouldn't even bet the flop.

delaney09

In Response to Re: Play AA at your peril:

I really dont know why i didnt re-raise flop or turn, maybe i knew what was coming. Even with a re-raise i think he is calling it so maybe i saved myself i bit of cash.
Posted by Jimbobadob

bad excuse, you raise it pre then when he donk bets into you, you decide to just flat every street if you are just going to flat flop at least bump it up on the turn, but flop i would be re raising turn setting him in and if he calls river losing but you still have to at least put him to some sort of test

Jimbobadob

As i said in my first post - Shoot me down for the first one ( i know i played it badly), but hey check it out lol

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Delinho14	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£25.53
Jimbobadob	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£28.33
	Your hole cards	A A
xxx	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£24.75
x	Fold
x	Fold
x	Raise		£0.60	£1.10	£6.72
x	Fold
Jimbobadob	Raise		£1.60	£2.70	£26.73
x	Fold
xxx	Call		£1.20	£3.90	£5.52
Flop
		3 8 10
Jimbobadob	Bet		£2.93	£6.83	£23.80
xxx	Call		£2.93	£9.76	£2.59
Turn
		5
Jimbobadob	Bet		£7.32	£17.08	£16.48
xxx	All-in		£2.59	£19.67	£0.00
Jimbobadob	Unmatched bet		£4.73	£14.94	£21.21
Jimbobadob	Show	A A
xxx	Show	Q J
River
		5
Jimbobadob	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 5s	£14.19		£35.40

fellows07

In Response to Play AA at your peril:

wouldnt say i am the best player ever, we all make mistakes mate, keep ya chin up and rise back, but the first aces you had maybe you should have warned him and not let him catch gutshot str8 or his trips! my opinion doesnt mean i am right tho, Head up!  

fellows07

Twice at the weekend at important stages of a tourney, now the cash tables have a laugh at my expense. Shoot me down for the first one but the second one was against a player that played in probably 90% of hands for well over 2 hours and there is no way he had a q. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance tiadog Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £18.26 xxx Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £19.66 x Sit out           Your hole cards A A       x Fold         Jimbobadob Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £22.37 x Fold         x Fold         xxx Call   £0.40 £1.30 £19.26 Flop     3 2 5       xxx Bet   £1.30 £2.60 £17.96 Jimbobadob Call   £1.30 £3.90 £21.07 Turn     Q       xxx Bet   £3.90 £7.80 £14.06 Jimbobadob Call   £3.90 £11.70 £17.17 River     6       xxx Bet   £5.85 £17.55 £8.21 Jimbobadob Call   £5.85 £23.40 £11.32 xxx Show 6 6       Jimbobadob Muck A A       xxx Win Three 6s £22.23   £30.44 Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance x Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £36.16 Jimbobadob Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £20.02   Your hole cards A A       x Fold         x Fold         xxx Call   £0.20 £0.50 £5.21 x Fold         x Raise   £0.60 £1.10 £35.56 Jimbobadob Raise   £1.60 £2.70 £18.42 xxx Call   £1.60 £4.30 £3.61 x Call   £1.10 £5.40 £34.46 Flop     3 Q Q       x Check         Jimbobadob Bet   £2.70 £8.10 £15.72 xxx Call   £2.70 £10.80 £0.91 x Fold         Turn     8       Jimbobadob Bet   £1.00 £11.80 £14.72 xxx All-in   £0.91 £12.71 £0.00 Jimbobadob Unmatched bet   £0.09 £12.62 £14.81 Jimbobadob Show A A       xxx Show J 7       River     7       xxx Win Flush to the Queen £11.98   £11.98 I know at the end of the day any 2 cards can win a poker game but come on, im starting to have second thoughts about playing aces
Posted by Jimbobadob

bolly580

lets be honest unless its an unbelivable draw heavy board your moneys going in everytime so charge them a fortune to hit there draws, especially here on sky!

when delt Aces im pleased to pick up the blinds everytime with a very agressive raise pre flop, your either winnin minimal or going broke with aces on this site in my opinion

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: Play AA at your peril:

lets be honest unless its an unbelivable draw heavy board your moneys going in everytime so charge them a fortune to hit there draws, especially here on sky! when delt Aces im pleased to pick up the blinds everytime with a very agressive raise pre flop, your either winnin minimal or going broke with aces on this site in my opinion
Posted by bolly580

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rancid

In Response to Re: Play AA at your peril:

In Response to Re: Play AA at your peril : Bad advice of the year award goes to Yoooooouuuuu wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!!
Posted by Dudeskin8

This is sarcasm right ? I hate it when people play scared aces pre flop, or maybe I am alone !!

Dudeskin8

So you want to just win the blinds with Aces? Maybe I'm being leveled, what is a level by the way, I'm thick ?

Jimbobadob

Forget the aces sky still ***** me with any starting hand that is better then my opponent when it matters, complete joke. any more of this and im going to habve to get my backside over to area 51

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Jimbobadob	Small blind		75.00	75.00	1245.00
MacMonster	Big blind		150.00	225.00	4415.00
	Your hole cards	8 8
ADIESHADY	Fold
hinton	Fold
LemmyWynn	Call		150.00	375.00	1335.00
4fingersAA	Fold
Jimbobadob	All-in		1245.00	1620.00	0.00
MacMonster	Call		1170.00	2790.00	3245.00
LemmyWynn	Fold
Jimbobadob	Show	8 8
MacMonster	Show	7 7
Flop
		7 5 3
Turn
		5
River
		Q
MacMonster	Win	Full House, 7s and 5s	2790.00		6035.00

Jimbobadob

Final table, last 4 and guess whos card dead (3Paid)    --     surprise suprise me.

7bb's left sb with a9. shove all-in and get beat by a pair of 4s.
My bad run is on a bad run

oh well tomorrow is another day for sky to have there fun and games with me!!!!!!!!!!

Night Night

bolly580

Dudeskin you ever had aces on sky?

If you have then youl know what im talking about, your either winning minimal or going broke, either way youve gotta put a big raise in pre flop.

By the time it gets to the flop your getting your money in and loosin to somebody whose decided to call ur weak raise with suited connectors or a pcoket pair and hit a set, eitherway ur going broke.

Take the advice lado, what is the post called again? "Play AA at your Peril?"

Good Luck

Dudeskin8

Yes I have had them, although not enough imo lol

I usually win very nice pots on Sky with them, when I don't win it's when someone calls a bet getting bad odds and hits their 'out', this is bad for me but long term as John Tabatabi (spelling) said on one of the cash shows (where they had a guy who actually speaks proper, not enough of late sadly) that if you play it the right way over time your basically printing money against that guy.

You mention guy calls your 'weak' raise, why are we raising weak with big hand? No, you raise big with big hands you then bet big on flop with big hands. Big Big Big BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGG wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Oh and it is LOSING, not LOOSING which is not a word, you can however be a LOOSE player but not a LOSE player, although you can be a LOSING player.

Codex

this is the poker clinic, not the bad beats forum

Dudeskin8

I know, they even made a nice seperate section, guess some people need a guided tour.

BigBluster

Generally speaking, every street makes your aces worse. They rarely improve and when they do there's either an A on board (so you don't get paid) or a paired board, when you could be in trouble.
Fantastic to have them heads up or short stacked, but actually quite vulnerable. They're only one pair after all. The problem often is that people think they have a God-given right to win a hand when they're dealt them.

chevy_plym

I like the dudes answer i raise big with big hands whenever and wherever it always means that i never ever have to post a forum question as to my choices. I bet out and i land if somebody luckboxes fair play but it never allows me to have doubt.

Its all the other muck i play with that needs a look at!

unknown_username

Aces are obviously the strongest hand pre flop but they can lose value very quickly as the hand plays out. Most people dont recognise this fact at the lower limits, they see AA and think they cannot be beaten. It happens, over time you will win more than you lose with them if you play them correctly. Of course, variance is part of the game, you got to live with it.