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Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes

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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes:
    The micro cash could have been very nice if I had the guts to go with this. Table was quite passive but I was faced with 2 allins and it was for my topurnament. I ran out of time before I could decide what to do but i was leaning towards a fold.  Should i have been braver? . Any thoughts? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance FlyingDagg Small blind   600.00 600.00 24639.16 lowndsey Big blind   1200.00 1800.00 18251.68   Your hole cards 7 5       goldnballz Fold         betterha1f Fold         tomgoodun Call   1200.00 3000.00 23090.00 GREGHOGG Fold         FlyingDagg Call   600.00 3600.00 24039.16 lowndsey Check         Flop     6 9 Q       FlyingDagg Bet   1800.00 5400.00 22239.16 lowndsey All-in   18251.68 23651.68 0.00 tomgoodun All-in   23090.00 46741.68 0.00 FlyingDagg Fold         tomgoodun Unmatched bet   4838.32 41903.36 4838.32 lowndsey Show J Q       tomgoodun Show 6 6       Turn     8       River     10       lowndsey Win Straight to the Queen 41903.36   41903.36
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    interesting question - might be worth posting in the clinic (with the result and villains name edited out of course)
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited July 2013
    Hi dagg

    I ran some numbers on a generalised version of this hand

    Fd vs tptk vs set you only have 30% equity
    if set is 2prs instead only increases to 35% (it's the tptk that gets most benefit.)

    so with no fold equity then it looks like a fold



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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes:
    Hi dagg I ran some numbers on a generalised version of this hand Fd vs tptk vs set you only have 30% equity if set is 2prs instead only increases to 35% (it's the tptk that gets most benefit.) so with no fold equity then it looks like a fold
    Posted by GELDY
    Fold equity isn't really a concept that I knew about. However I've just googled it and I understand that it represents the chances (shown as a %) of getting an opponent to fold if I bet. However as both my opponents are allin that means the fold equity is zero. Is that correct Geldy?
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited July 2013
    Yep
    they are all in so will not fold whatever

    therefore the actual equity of the hand is the only thing that matters

    if you had fold equity
    you could play some hands that technically you do not have the hand odds to play if you reckon there is a good chance they will fold instead of playing the hand

    It's why aggro players can get away with raising with worse hands because the oppo may just prefer to fold than to tangle worth them

    in this hand if your oppo 1 had raised and villain 2 called you could then consider shoving if you thought there was a chance they would fold
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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes:
    The micro cash could have been very nice if I had the guts to go with this. Table was quite passive but I was faced with 2 allins and it was for my topurnament. I ran out of time before I could decide what to do but i was leaning towards a fold.  Should i have been braver? . Any thoughts? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance FlyingDagg Small blind   600.00 600.00 24639.16 lowndsey Big blind   1200.00 1800.00 18251.68   Your hole cards 7 5       goldnballz Fold         betterha1f Fold         tomgoodun Call   1200.00 3000.00 23090.00 GREGHOGG Fold         FlyingDagg Call   600.00 3600.00 24039.16 lowndsey Check         Flop     6 9 Q       FlyingDagg Bet   1800.00 5400.00 22239.16 lowndsey All-in   18251.68 23651.68 0.00 tomgoodun All-in   23090.00 46741.68 0.00 FlyingDagg Fold         tomgoodun Unmatched bet   4838.32 41903.36 4838.32 lowndsey Show J Q       tomgoodun Show 6 6       Turn     8       River     10       lowndsey Win Straight to the Queen 41903.36   41903.36
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    Yeh interesting question.Don't know laundsey but we know tom is good.He's not shoving there unless he knows he's ahead.or is on a flush draw I think.So your 75 is so far behind.Then again the blinds are high and this is a good spot if you think the flush draw you have is the only one.Don't know pot odds mate but to me it's just up to how your feeling.That's my view anyway mate.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2013

    Nice Cashes All.


    Thats a very tough spot dagg.

    I've probably called it sometimes and folded it in others. We know we are well behind once we have 2 all-ins before us, but it very tempting with the gutshot straight draw & flush draw with that stack in the middle.

    In the end your gut feeling, infuenced by the 2 all-ins in front of you turned out to be the correct decision, so I think we have to be happy with our play here imo.

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  • KEITH1960KEITH1960
    edited July 2013
    A SMALL CASH IN DTD 1
    KEITH196008£11.69
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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes:
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Yeh interesting question.Don't know laundsey but we know tom is good.He's not shoving there unless he knows he's ahead.or is on a flush draw I think.So your 75 is so far behind.Then again the blinds are high and this is a good spot if you think the flush draw you have is the only one.Don't know pot odds mate but to me it's just up to how your feeling.That's my view anyway mate.
    Posted by jjjach
    Your thinking was exactly like mine Martin. Laundsey was very quiet and I knicked a load of blinds off him so had to take his allin seriously. If he was the only allin I would have definately called but Tom threw a spanner in the works. All I had time to do was roughly work out my number of outs and the fact that I would be top 5 if I won the hand. And when the heart came on the turn it was a case of if only. Those are the type of situations that a time bank is a great help.
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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013

    WD keith nice cash.

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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013
    Little one from mini bh. jjjach093£7.52 Head Prizes4
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2013
    Dale

    Regarding the hand Geldy has pretty much nailed this one.
    Obviously with them all in there is no fold equity and so to win we require the best hand.
    If we're saying at least one of the opponents is good then he has at least 2 pair or a set. 
    This is really bad for us as now we know that as well as hitting the flush we need to fade the board pairing. Our number of outs has reduced further.
    This now becomes a pretty trivial fold in my opinion.
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited July 2013
    SPT semi - 3/11 min-cash - that's 4 cashes out of 6 played!

    GELDY 0 3 £44
    that's all from me for a week
    gl on the tables everybody


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  • IrishRoseIrishRose
    edited July 2013
    Hi all

    Best of luck on the tables to you all.

    I had a bit of luck in the 9pm £55 BH game.  (Won a sat into it so £6 fee) - only came 6th but had a few heads.

    151.90 +141.81

    thanks for the rails JJ & co - it means a lot

    Hope you all have great night and early morning lol.  Will try to play the Wed night game if I'm home in time.
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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013
    WD geldy and rose nice cashes.
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  • haylez83haylez83
    edited July 2013
    £100 Deep StackTournament CompleteFinished at 00:17 - 17 JulRegistered112 / 1000Players Left0 / 112177viper77 - £31.302quagmire69 - £19.103haylez83 - £11.76
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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013
    WD haylez nice cash.Gl at the tables guys.
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  • biggib8030biggib8030
    edited July 2013
    small cash in 150 bh finished 3rd , only 22 sqwid but it all counts rite lol.. oh ye and finished 35th in main event lastneet and anotha small fortune... 38 sqwid
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  • K8LOUK8LOU
    edited July 2013
    Couple of littlens... 



    K8LOU010£60.94 Head Prizes3

    K8LOU02£28.12
    K8LOU23005£11.50
    K8LOU380001£62.50
    K8LOU014£36.54


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  • JeffterJeffter
    edited July 2013
    A couple fron this afternoon

    Jeffter07£10.60 + £16.89 Head Prizes8
    Jeffter03£12.38 + £12.31 Head Prizes4
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  • haylez83haylez83
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes:
    WD haylez nice cash.Gl at the tables guys.
    Posted by jjjach
    thanks good luck to all as always.

    few nights off work this week, so I will be playing deep stacks and bounty hunters while I am off.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2013

    Well done on your cashes - Haylez, Jeffter, K8LOU, Biggi

    Best of luck at the tables tonight all.

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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited July 2013
    Hi appollo1131 welcome to TPT. Have sent you a private message
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  • IrishRoseIrishRose
    edited July 2013
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

    Extra gl tonight on the tables
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  • tomred64tomred64
    edited July 2013
    Hi all, thanks for all your messages of support, unfortunatly my aunt passed away at 00.15 tuesday morning and myself and my mum missed her by about half an hour. Back home now waiting on arrangements to be made. Again TY for all support..
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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited July 2013
    So sorry to hear your news Tom. My condolences to your family.
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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited July 2013
    Small cash in £500 BH. Thankyou Martin for rail.

    FlyingDagg014£2.79 + £1.69 Head Prizes
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  • JeffterJeffter
    edited July 2013
    Condolences to you and your family Tom

    Couple of little ones again

    Jeffter03£13.500
    Jeffter06£7.56
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  • jjjachjjjach
    edited July 2013
    Condolences to you and your family tom.Welcome to the team appollo1131.WD all nice cashes.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2013
    Condolences to you and your family Tom
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  • K8LOUK8LOU
    edited July 2013
    Condolences to you and ur family Tom, hope u and your family are ok......
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