how can computor know callers on gutshot

edge215

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BAGGIE_13	Small blind		10.00	10.00	2280.00
edge215	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1930.00
	Your hole cards	7 A
jams91209	Fold
kessie	Call		20.00	50.00	1780.00
anwario12	Call		20.00	70.00	1790.00
hitmansin	Fold
BAGGIE_13	Raise		70.00	140.00	2210.00
edge215	Call		60.00	200.00	1870.00
kessie	Call		60.00	260.00	1720.00
anwario12	Call		60.00	320.00	1730.00
Flop
		8 7 3
BAGGIE_13	Check
edge215	Bet		160.00	480.00	1710.00
kessie	Call		160.00	640.00	1560.00
anwario12	Call		160.00	800.00	1570.00
BAGGIE_13	Fold
Turn
		A
edge215	Bet		400.00	1200.00	1310.00
kessie	Fold
anwario12	Call		400.00	1600.00	1170.00
River
		6
edge215	Bet		800.00	2400.00	510.00
anwario12	All-in		1170.00	3570.00	0.00
edge215	Call		370.00	3940.00	140.00
edge215	Show	7 A
anwario12	Show	9 5
anwario12	Win	Straight to the 9	3940.00		3940.00

loonytoons

Poor call after the flop but once the turn came he had 12 outs on the river (9 spades and 3 sixes) which is over a 25% chance, bad odds but hardly a gutshot. The thing with internet poker is people will do this sort of thing, in a casino its hat on, coat on, out the door if your out, but online its click another tourney open and start again.

baggs

Amazing how it consistently runs in streaks though is it not?

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: how can computor know callers on gutshot:

Amazing how it consistently runs in streaks though is it not?
Posted by baggs

You've said this a few times, what do you actually mean?

Some nights you play 20 games and the best hand holds 18/20 times.

Other nights you play 20 games and the best hand loses 15/20 times.

Or does a "streak" last 5 days? 

Or something totally different?

Or wat?

baggs

Let me guess its just variance?

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: how can computor know callers on gutshot:

Let me guess its just variance?
Posted by baggs

That's what it sounds like, but I wasn't saying that. I was asking you.

Can you explain why you suspect it's something other than variance? Or not?.....

baggs

You and I both know that sample size trumps a gut feel argument. Doesnt stop me thinking somethings odd based on experience

baggs

I would actually be more suprised if data came out to supoprt that its random than I would if data came out the other. Its pretty farcical at times to be honest

DOHHHHHHH

Just looked at ur skope graph again,. it's actually insane.

You can't play that many games and win that many of them, without having a downswing, unless you're running good. 

I notice there's a very slight dip recently, so maybe you're just walking into one, or it might be a temporary blip.

U play HU only, the swings r sposed to be big, but you haven't had any swings, just winning forever.

You've got used to winning, like the irishman did, so when the downswing comes you panic and look for something else to blame, and that's usually the site, and obv it is in this case. 

You've got alot worse to come if u keep playing HU poker.

Anyway u'r unlikely to take any of that in, or even consider it, as ur mind is made up about the site. But I cba to get into another ongoing debate about it.

GL.

grantorino

it knows u have a gutshot obv, it needs to know your hole cards to decide who to award the pot to

baggs

In Response to Re: how can computor know callers on gutshot:

Just looked at ur skope graph again,. it's actually insane. You can't play that many games and win that many of them, without having a downswing, unless you're running good.  I notice there's a very slight dip recently, so maybe you're just walking into one, or it might be a temporary blip. U play HU only, the swings r sposed to be big, but you haven't had any swings, just winning forever. You've got used to winning, like the irishman did, so when the downswing comes you panic and look for something else to blame, and that's usually the site, and obv it is in this case.  You've got alot worse to come if u keep playing HU poker. Anyway u'r unlikely to take any of that in, or even consider it, as ur mind is made up about the site. But I cba to get into another ongoing debate about it. GL.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Ive thought the same after building up a significant sample. There is no panic whatsoever (sometimes it falls in my favour as well believe it or not). As for hitting a worse patch,  Why - 5000 games and it ain't happened. Do you believe this is too small a sample and actually I ve just been running well? Could be I suppose, will find out I guess

NB the scale is making it look like no downswings, there are I assure you

bigal36903

In Response to Re: how can computor know callers on gutshot:

it knows u have a gutshot obv, it needs to know your hole cards to decide who to award the pot to
Posted by grantorino

it is random. it has already picked a winning hand, it is if the players play their cards...

the 5 cards in middle r already picked, depends on what order they come.

u see yourself when u fold ur 85os it comes 858 flop or fh somewhere on street and someone wins it with pair with Q


the hands are pre dtermined, but not everyone plays the rubbish hands

Batkin88

There isn't even an argument for it being fixed these players don't moan when there winning just can't take losing. If you feel it's fixed go to a different site why give your money away??

CagSher

In Response to Re: how can computor know callers on gutshot:

There isn't even an argument for it being fixed these players don't moan when there winning just can't take losing. If you feel it's fixed go to a different site why give your money away??
Posted by Batkin88

I totally agree, I say this to people at the tables time and time again, if you think it's fixed, why are you still here? lol