KQo OOP on LAGGY table

The_Don90

Ok looking at this hand from the SPT sat tonight im not sure i played it 100% optimal. The reason being because of the table dynamics.

The table is playing very loose poker. Infact i problably have the best seat in the house. the two players acting before me are extremely LAGGY.

When the raise comes from the button going by previous hands im 99% sure hes not folding to a 3-bet and thats the main reason i post this. Is it fine to go for value here?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
The_Don90	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1925.00
stebar56	Big blind		30.00	45.00	3465.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
KLM	Fold
a	Fold
x	Raise		90.00	135.00	2780.00
The_Don90	Raise		180.00	315.00	1745.00
stebar56	Fold
x	Call		105.00	420.00	2675.00
Flop
		2 Q 8
The_Don90	Bet		315.00	735.00	1430.00
x	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		420.00		1850.00
The_Don90	Return		315.00	0.00	2165.00

delaney09

3 bet is fine mate against a known laggy opponent, on the flop though i probably bet to look weak maybe 180-200 hoping for the guy to play back then make your move, although the 315 is understandable as he has been playing a lot of hands and calling a lot of bets on flop that are close to pot, i think you played it fine mate was unlucky to not get a call seeing how they have played

percival09

flatting or 3-betting is ok, you want to mix it up though .... it's likely you have the best hand pre but that doesn't mean you have to raise! i think you played it fine though, fwiw 3-bet bigger

Dudeskin8

I would mainly just flat pre, but if 3bet it needs to much bigger, 300 minimum.

grantorino

I think 3betting pre is fine, calling an option to. If you 3bet though make it bigger and also have a plan for what you are doing when you miss, as he sounds like a guy might call cbets a lot

Flop there is no need to bet this big, bet 250 and obv get it in if raised 

Also someone who will flat a 3bet 99% of time at this stack depth doesnt sound like a lag (at least not a good one)

AMYBR

I 3bet slightly larger as he's snapping with any two for the sizing, but you retain the betting lead cheap regardless.  Like the lead, he easily gets creative, but equally plays and pays a worse Q a 7's/9's for 1 maybe 2 bullets.

LLCooLD

the 3-bet needs to be larger, NO Dealer holding folds to the small 3 bet in position.

jams88

whats a laggy opponant i presume your not just talking about internet connection?

LOL_RAISE

loose - aggressive

bandini

Don, I'm far from a poker genius but will give my take if you don't mind.

If you're 3-betting with a horrendous hand like KQo (I'd rather do it with 83o) then bet BIGGGGG. Min raise is horrible in my eyes.

Post : You bet out and took it down? Result, no? There's not much you're beating that calls, even if turn comes K?

Find better spots, you know you're good enough to.

As played, check-raise. Let them bluff. They haven't AQ and a set's just unlucky.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: KQo OOP on LAGGY table:

Don, I'm far from a poker genius but will give my take if you don't mind. If you're 3-betting with a horrendous hand like KQo (I'd rather do it with 83o) then bet BIGGGGG. Min raise is horrible in my eyes. Post : You bet out and took it down? Result, no? There's not much you're beating that calls, even if turn comes K? Find better spots, you know you're good enough to. As played, check-raise. Let them bluff. They haven't AQ and a set's just unlucky.
Posted by bandini

ty mate. some pretty good constructive feedback here. I actually agree that the 3 bet should be bigger if its getting made. It was the first thing that i thought looking back at the hand.

The 83o situation is a kind of comical example tbh. Last 3 bet i made light happened to be 83o v Dave Bland at SPT Cardiff lol.

Anyways. Few good points here mate, ty/

grantorino

In Response to Re: KQo OOP on LAGGY table:

Don, I'm far from a poker genius but will give my take if you don't mind. If you're 3-betting with a horrendous hand like KQo (I'd rather do it with 83o) then bet BIGGGGG. Min raise is horrible in my eyes. Post : You bet out and took it down? Result, no? There's not much you're beating that calls, even if turn comes K? Find better spots, you know you're good enough to. As played, check-raise. Let them bluff. They haven't AQ and a set's just unlucky.
Posted by bandini

if he's loose and calls with 99% of his opening range why is 3betting KQo horrible?

Similarly on flop there should be a few worse Qx, pocket pairs and flush draws that can call/raise. Why should he c/r flop if you think villain is going to bluff?