Overs + NFD shove or fold?

Dudeskin8

X is basically dead money seen flat 4x pre then call off stack over 3 streets on 10 high board.

Y have no notes on.

Also is AQ a 3betting hand pre, I just flatted as didn't want to get shoved on plus have position.

x	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£4.05
marc25497	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£4.66
	Your hole cards	Q A
donny888	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£6.36
jimifloyd	Fold
y	Raise		£0.16	£0.36	£5.58
Dudeskin8	Call		£0.16	£0.52	£11.88
x	Raise		£0.20	£0.72	£3.85
marc25497	Call		£0.16	£0.88	£4.50
donny888	Fold
y	Call		£0.08	£0.96	£5.50
Dudeskin8	Call		£0.08	£1.04	£11.80
Flop
		4 6 8
x	Bet		£0.20	£1.24	£3.65
marc25497	Fold
y	Raise		£1.28	£2.52	£4.22
Dudeskin8

PiAnOpLaYa

on the button i prob 3 bet.

As you have only invested a small amount I Prob just fold.

Dont see y folding to a Jam and if you call and hit do you still get paid off?

DOHHHHHHH

Shippit!

grantorino

you can 3bet here, calling fine readless

Any reads at all on y? meh prob 3bet and get it in, I dont think folding is bad either though

LLCooLD

depends how deep you are, how early you are in the tournament might make a difference.

Im not the sort of person who likes to get my 15,000 chips in at 25-50 with a draw lol. 

anything around 30BB and Im shipping everyday of the week.

grantorino

In Response to Re: Overs + NFD shove or fold?:

depends how deep you are, how early you are in the tournament might make a difference. Im not the sort of person who likes to get my 15,000 chips in at 25-50 with a draw lol.  anything around 30BB and Im shipping everyday of the week.
Posted by LLCooLD

its a cash game hes 50BB deep with 1 villain, about 70 with the other, its all in the hh

rancid

3 bet this position no problem

ALL IN BABY ON FLOP !

Codex

agree with Rancid

AMYBR

I like the flat on the button in this spot level/  They arent really folding and you get the bonus of keeping in worst hands (A's) and managing the size of the pot well.

Given depth of stacks I think I opt to get it in, on trength of draw rather than overs, I think you only have one live over here.

Only you know when your inclination will be if a brick hits turn, will you forge on or give up.  If you forge on regardless then I think it would be best getting it in on flop bud.