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Can I do anything else here?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Notes - Call 5x Raise pre from SB w/K10 - Bet flop wiv set then just call raise - Just call down bets with TPTK on J high flop and turn check bak River

Also play 1 table.
kissmyfins Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £9.75
Robbo67 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £13.68
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.40 £0.55 £9.60
Wakey_S Fold        
RTABERNER8 Fold        
x Call   £0.40 £0.95 £24.93
kissmyfins Fold        
Robbo67 Fold        
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 8
  • J
     
Dudeskin8 Bet   £0.71 £1.66 £8.89
x Raise   £1.42 £3.08 £23.51
Dudeskin8 All-in   £8.89 £11.97 £0.00
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited August 2011
    Looks perfect to me. I fancy he has AJ or a big ace suited (clubs) because I don't see what else he should be flatting pre with.

    Obviously we don't want to be results orientated but how did it go?

    EDIT: Maybe maybe 88 I guess, but I dunno if I prefer a 3 bet there. I guess he is in position...
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect
    edited August 2011
    not really loving life if ur reads are accurate - checks back tptk on riv previous hands and donk/calls with a set...i think a fold isnt the worst as u would assume he doesnt play AJ this way so at best ur against a draw which again i find hard to believe he plays this way

    ip u cud call and re-evaluate turn maybe but oop ur hating most turn cards , fold is fine
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here?:
    not really loving life if ur reads are accurate - checks back tptk on riv previous hands and donk/calls with a set...i think a fold isnt the worst as u would assume he doesnt play AJ this way so at best ur against a draw which again i find hard to believe he plays this way ip u cud call and re-evaluate turn maybe but oop ur hating most turn cards , fold is fine
    Posted by lynx3ffect

    Pretty much my view. If he's got a set, the min raise isnt good, hasnt protected his hand against the draws at all, but reads suggest he is strong here. 

    I think he's on a draw, if not he's played it pretty badly. I'll go with something like Ac,10c.

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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here?:
    not really loving life if ur reads are accurate - checks back tptk on riv previous hands and donk/calls with a set...i think a fold isnt the worst as u would assume he doesnt play AJ this way so at best ur against a draw which again i find hard to believe he plays this way ip u cud call and re-evaluate turn maybe but oop ur hating most turn cards , fold is fine
    Posted by lynx3ffect
    Errnmm he canny fold hes already ALL-IN
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here?:
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here? : Errnmm he canny fold hes already ALL-IN
    Posted by debdobs_67
    fold instead of the all in...
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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited August 2011
    prob fold given reads, getting it in cant be bad either though we have no reads on how he plays draws
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here?:
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here? : fold instead of the all in...
    Posted by lynx3ffect
    Yep got ya , misread ure post xx
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa
    edited August 2011
    i just hate life when i get min raised at this level
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited August 2011
    Just to add the TPTK slow played was 3-way IP where maybe he just wants to play small pot, here I'm heads up against a guy who plays one table and only reads are one offs not repetive over 1000's of hands.

    Surely longterm if I'm folding here against one villain it can't be great ?
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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Can I do anything else here?:
    Just to add the TPTK slow played was 3-way IP where maybe he just wants to play small pot, here I'm heads up against a guy who plays one table and only reads are one offs not repetive over 1000's of hands. Surely longterm if I'm folding here against one villain it can't be great ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Depends on the player. There are villains against whom this is a fold. What range do you think he does it with?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2011
    Looking from another perspective, how were you percieved on the table? Had you been a serial raiser and table captain? Been really aggro? Or quite tight and not involved that much?

    If it looks like you have been at it a fair bit then he could easily do this with a lot worse, but with the reads given he looks v strong.
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  • bolly580bolly580
    edited August 2011
    could he not have 9 10 of clubs? and fancy a gamble to hit his 15 outs?
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