Bet turn with no reads?

Wilhelm

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TheRat1	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£5.64
jonney102	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£7.73
	Your hole cards	K 8
moxyAK	Fold
ernest1214	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£11.39
iainmac105	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£4.90
Wilhelm	Raise		£0.50	£0.85	£10.15
TheRat1	Fold
jonney102	Fold
ernest1214	Call		£0.40	£1.25	£10.99
iainmac105	Call		£0.40	£1.65	£4.50
Flop
		7 K 9
ernest1214	Check
iainmac105	Bet		£0.83	£2.48	£3.67
Wilhelm	Call		£0.83	£3.31	£9.32
ernest1214	Call		£0.83	£4.14	£10.16
Turn
		8
ernest1214	Check
iainmac105	Check
Wilhelm

Wilhelm

And why might also be useful.  Ta. 

Dudeskin8

I would personally just fold preflop, other aggro monkeys will say it's fine but not for me lol

As played I probably check back turn after they check to you after betting flop. Then call off smallish river bet.

Codex

i prob prefer re-raise on flop as you have weak kicker and its a draw heavy board so take a stab at winning pot now and make any draws pay to get there

i dont know these players, but a lot of people play made draws weakly so you cant assume they dont have flushes or straights simply by them checking - would need reads for how they play made hands - there are also a LOT of draws there now even if no hands already made so i think it unlikely you will win hand with bet here


i'd probably look to get to showdown cheapy so check and call small river bets if river is a brick, but would fold to a big bet or shove (unless hit another K or 8 on river) especially if villain only needs one card to a straight or flush


only issue is, im not familiar with this level, if people are calling with nothing, you maybe should be betting for value, but i think more often than not, there are made hands or strong draws against you

edit -- /> agree with dudeskin, don't like the raise pre - you could limp here looking for the flush or fold

DOHHHHHHH

I bet the turn because I have 2 pairs, and there are lots of worse hands that can call me, KQ, KJ, KT, K7, Kx with any club, 78, 79, 68, 8T, wierdly played AK and bare high clubs etc, whatever.

2.50 bet, call shorty raise, fold if ernest shoves, unless he overvalues hands, or bluffs alot, even then it still might be a fold coz a crai from him here wud almost always be a flush.

lynx3ffect

bet bigger on flop, bet/fold turn (unless shorty shoves)

still a ton of value to be had from worse 2p, tp that cant let go and a bare club who likes a fishing trip

Wilhelm

OK, so this is what happened.  I won't show what the others had as I forgot to edit their names out earlier.  I think I did the right thing.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TheRat1	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£5.64
jonney102	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£7.73
	Your hole cards	K 8
moxyAK	Fold
ernest1214	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£11.39
iainmac105	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£4.90
Wilhelm	Raise		£0.50	£0.85	£10.15
TheRat1	Fold
jonney102	Fold
ernest1214	Call		£0.40	£1.25	£10.99
iainmac105	Call		£0.40	£1.65	£4.50
Flop
		7 K 9
ernest1214	Check
iainmac105	Bet		£0.83	£2.48	£3.67
Wilhelm	Call		£0.83	£3.31	£9.32
ernest1214	Call		£0.83	£4.14	£10.16
Turn
		8
ernest1214	Check
iainmac105	Check
Wilhelm	Bet		£2.07	£6.21	£7.25
ernest1214	Raise		£4.14	£10.35	£6.02
iainmac105	All-in		£3.67	£14.02	£0.00
Wilhelm	Fold

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Bet turn with no reads?:

OK, so this is what happened.  I won't show what the others had as I forgot to edit their names out earlier.  I think I did the right thing. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance TheRat1 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £5.64 jonney102 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £7.73   Your hole cards K 8       moxyAK Fold         ernest1214 Call   £0.10 £0.25 £11.39 iainmac105 Call   £0.10 £0.35 £4.90 Wilhelm Raise   £0.50 £0.85 £10.15 TheRat1 Fold         jonney102 Fold         ernest1214 Call   £0.40 £1.25 £10.99 iainmac105 Call   £0.40 £1.65 £4.50 Flop     7 K 9       ernest1214 Check         iainmac105 Bet   £0.83 £2.48 £3.67 Wilhelm Call   £0.83 £3.31 £9.32 ernest1214 Call   £0.83 £4.14 £10.16 Turn     8       ernest1214 Check         iainmac105 Check         Wilhelm Bet   £2.07 £6.21 £7.25 ernest1214 Raise   £4.14 £10.35 £6.02 iainmac105 All-in   £3.67 £14.02 £0.00 Wilhelm Fold
Posted by Wilhelm

Of course you can show their cards, you haven't given reads (coz you haven't got any), nor have you slated their play.

Played v well.

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Bet turn with no reads?:

In Response to Re: Bet turn with no reads? : Of course you can show their cards, you haven't given reads (coz you haven't got any), nor have you slated their play. Played v well.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I properley slated a guy on here once, forgetting to edit his name out.  Now I'm extra careful.

yb

In Response to Re: Bet turn with no reads?:

In Response to Re: Bet turn with no reads? : Of course you can show their cards, you haven't given reads (coz you haven't got any), nor have you slated their play. Played v well.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

+1

i like your play on all streets

grantorino

pre is marginal readless imo, I prob just fold

I like ther rest, turn is a clear vbet imo

percival09

i'd definitely fold pre readless

post flop is good