Call or Fold?

KKrippler

KKripplerSmall blind £0.05£0.05£21.60marcus191Big blind £0.10£0.15£48.57 Your hole cardsQQ   coco521Fold    pokaaliceCall £0.10£0.25£4.15SeizerCall £0.10£0.35£12.70stevemug2Raise £0.60£0.95£13.10KKripplerRaise £2.55£3.50£19.05marcus191Fold    pokaaliceCall £2.50£6.00£1.65SeizerCall £2.50£8.50£10.20stevemug2All-in £13.10£21.60£0.00KKripplerFold    pokaaliceAll-in £1.65£23.25£0.00

KKrippler

Dont play Cash Games much at all, not entirely comfortable yet, would never ever fold in stt's or mtt's with this hand, but thought at these levels nit up, and wait to get paid. 

Only just joined table so no reads, just want to know if its a fold or call.I have three betted opponent, and he's seen two calls and still goes all in, so felt his all in was high pair or at worse Ace King. Any advice much appreciated or possible hand range.

Dudeskin8

LOL I play here too and would hate this spot although after 3betting you probably have to call as could easily be AK played strong.

EDIT : Ignore fact I 4bet folded QQ pre lol

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

LOL I play here too and would hate this spot although after 3betting you probably have to call as could easily be AK played strong. EDIT : Ignore fact I 4bet folded QQ pre lol
Posted by Dudeskin8

lol i was gonna say the same thing ) i think ya folded correctly kkrippler

KKrippler

Yes apologies four bet. What i was wondering was would opponents do this play with lower pairs or even ACE QUEEN. It honestly felt like an easy fold at the time, just felt i needed to hit a queen to win, which was worringly tempting.

grantorino

call, if you are not calling dont 3bet readless

KKrippler

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

call, if you are not calling dont 3bet readless
Posted by grantorino

I dont know if i neccesarily agree with that statement. Surely by re rasing i wean out all high card combos and middle suited connecters. The only way i can define and narrow his range is by re raising. If i just flat call i allow multiple callers and i dont want to play queens oop multiway, and by re raising allows me to fold to a possible superior hand., just my thoughts

unknown_username

Only worried about stevemug obviously, you have to put just over a tenner in to win 23 quid with one to act. Sounds reasonable to me if you manage your bankroll correctly, i think i'd risk it.

grantorino

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

In Response to Re: Call or Fold? : I dont know if i neccesarily agree with that statement. Surely by re rasing i wean out all high card combos and middle suited connecters. The only way i can define and narrow his range is by re raising. If i just flat call i allow multiple callers and i dont want to play queens oop multiway, and by re raising allows me to fold to a possible superior hand., just my thoughts
Posted by KKrippler

Why do you want highcard combos and suited connectors to fold ?

Narrowing his range with QQ is not great if you narrow it to a range that beats you.

I dont like 3b/f the 3rd nuts without a very clear read he calls with a wide range of worse hands and only raises better hands

KKrippler

Folding wasnt the right word, but not giving oppenents the right price to call with their less then premium hands. I dont like 3b/f at all, it just felt like i was flipping or drawing thin. But granted readless, i should probably call. So dis regarding the result, folding is a bad play in general,as DR SHARP says Im always getting the pot odds, and he doesnt have to have an over pair in this spot.

debdobs_67

Over the last 8 months that ive played cash seriously ive found that QQ usually does not play that well vs 2 callers that are all-in and not that very well either vs 1 all-in oppo

Codex

the 6x raise pre suggests to me he is either competent or has a big hand

depending on past play, if i think the former i raise and call re-raise, the latter you could fold or call and shove if no A or K