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was this fold too tight?

PuppetJackPuppetJack
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Player seemed to be reasonably LAG, however seemed to be doing ok apart from a major bad beat earlier.

thoughts would be appreciated. At the time I just took him to figure me on the king and thought his 5 (presumably) would get paid...?


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance-----------Small blind 25.0025.001382.50PuppetJackBig blind 50.0075.001827.50 Your hole cardsAK   keotyCall 50.00125.003085.00bexlex4424Fold    longhair21Call 50.00175.001980.00NuttySka48Fold    -----------Call 25.00200.001357.50PuppetJackRaise 200.00400.001627.50keotyFold    longhair21Fold    -----------Call 200.00600.001157.50Flop  5K10   -----------Check    PuppetJackBet 300.00900.001327.50-----------Call 300.001200.00857.50Turn  5   -----------All-in 857.502057.500.00PuppetJackFold    -----------Muck    -----------Win 1200.00 1200.00-----------Return 857.500.002057.50
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD
    edited August 2011
    Without any reads its difficult, but Im not folding. If he has hit the 5, he most likely checks again, rather than just jams. 

    I call, and lol at his pre flop call with Q5 :D
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  • PuppetJackPuppetJack
    edited August 2011
    Interesting. had I have been him ( with a 5), I absolutely would have shoved, as I'd figure it the most likely way to get paid.

    seems I have a bit to learn...?

    consequently ..they got knocked out shortly after with A-5 (flush draw) which didn't pay off.
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight?:
    Interesting. had I have been him ( with a 5), I absolutely would have shoved, as I'd figure it the most likely way to get paid. seems I have a bit to learn...? consequently ..they got knocked out shortly after with A-5 (flush draw) which didn't pay off.
    Posted by PuppetJack
    ach, I dunno, you might get people coming on here saying its an easy fold, others saying snap call. Its a tough spot, but I hate playing AK, hitting one of the cards, then folding to aggression on an uncoordinated board. 

    If I was villian, and I had just hit the other 5, Id be checking it back to you with one more street to come, I certainly wouldnt be jamming to see you fold a hand like AK in that spot, or ANY weaker hand for that matter. 

    As I said, if others disagree fair do's, Im on a downswing from Hell this year so whadda I know =P 
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  • rancidrancid
    edited August 2011
    snap

    why would he have a five - A5 :S
    Would he really call your flop bet with a five

    More likely K10 but you have that beat now anyway

    Feels like a KQ, KJ hand and why indeed shove turn - did he really call pre with 56/A6
    and call the flop bet with btm pr - if he did then hey ho WTF !
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight?:
    snap why would he have a five - A5 :S Would he really call your flop bet with a five More likely K10 but you have that beat now anyway Feels like a KQ, KJ hand
    Posted by rancid
    Id call (and in some cases raise) with a 5 on the flop against 1 opponent if the opponent is a high c-bet %age player.
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight?:
    K10 but you have that beat now anyway 
    Posted by rancid

    ORLY?
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  • rancidrancid
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight?:
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight? : ORLY?
    Posted by LLCooLD

    Taxi for me :) Could be K10 though

    I need sleep .... nn
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  • rancidrancid
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight?:
    In Response to Re: was this fold too tight? : Id call (and in some cases raise) with a 5 on the flop against 1 opponent if the opponent is a high c-bet %age player.
    Posted by LLCooLD
    Maybe but I can't give the guy credit for this as he has limped pre and then called a raise.
    Just seeing station unless he got like a set 10's or something.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited August 2011
    I snap this VERY quickly and expect the pot to slide my way.
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  • HYPETINGHYPETING
    edited August 2011
    I think this is an awful fold.
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  • percival09percival09
    edited August 2011
    V.easy call
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  • delaney09delaney09
    edited August 2011
    850 to win 2k easy call if he has a 5 lol and move on to the next hand, this is a easy call and its most likely he definitely is not doing this with a 5 but more likely just puts you on air and thinks the 5 is a good card to rep, he can have anything from J9/Q9/QJ/KJ/KQ w/ small pocket pairs you should be snapping this with your eyes closed
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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited August 2011
    snap it off
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  • jams88jams88
    edited August 2011
    What is your stack size? Seems like a call to me is likely you will bet again, why would he shove he is strong
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  • PuppetJackPuppetJack
    edited August 2011
    Thanks all for the advice. it certainly goes with my afterthought that I'd made a mistake. for some reason I just felt like he had it. as it was a DYM, I wasn't really in the mood to hobble myself for the sake of it & I went on to win, so perhaps it was the correct move strategically?

    will cetrainly think long & hard next time i'm in that spot.
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