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T2P at NL4. Facing tight opponent looks like im beat. Can i ever fold?
Debating this hand with JJ, im pretty annoyed at it as i believe i can fold here. He disagrees, so looking for the clinics view.
Opponent whos doing the betting is seriously tight. The other guy could have anything from 92+. The call from me on the flop is due to me suspecting im behind and im trying to fill up with great odds.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The_Don90 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £5.07 | |
| a | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £3.77 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| WALTERCOO | Call | £0.04 | £0.10 | £2.39 | |
| acemachine | Fold | ||||
| x | Call | £0.04 | £0.14 | £2.83 | |
| The_Don90 | Call | £0.02 | £0.16 | £5.05 | |
| a | Check | ||||
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| The_Don90 | Bet | £0.16 | £0.32 | £4.89 | |
| a | Raise | £0.52 | £0.84 | £3.25 | |
| WALTERCOO | Call | £0.52 | £1.36 | £1.87 | |
| x | Call | £0.52 | £1.88 | £2.31 | |
| The_Don90 | Call | £0.36 | £2.24 | £4.53 | |
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| The_Don90 | Check | ||||
| a | Bet | £1.68 | £3.92 | £1.57 | |
| WALTERCOO | Fold | ||||
| x | Call | £1.68 | £5.60 | £0.63 | |
| The_Don90 | ????? | ||||
Comments
Either way, there's no way you can fold at this level. Top 2 pair is gold dust here.
I seen your diary, this is the one where he's got 810 and flopped the straight, right? If it is, that shouldn't affect how you play this situation in future.
I have said on twit dont ever fold 2 pair at nl4 agreed?
erm I wouldn't go that far, if the turn was a ten I could fold it but i'm definitely never folding here!
Don says this guy is a really right player - unlikely hes raising into 4 people on that flop with less then 2 pair, so our hand is only beating q9 or j9, he got a free check in the bb so 10 8/K 10 is definately a plausible hand here and its very unlikely that the guys doing this with an overpair as villian will be raising 95% of the time pre flop.
Just because its 4nl doesn't mean we drop all our instincts and stack off even though we think we are behind.
with your reads on villains I think you should raise pre
Anyway ya unless he tightened up a lot I prob stack vs him too.
Never gonna take out the easy money if you run away after they beat you in one hand
Yeah I saw his AK binking against KK, and I've never seen someone get so many AAs in such a short space of time lol.
Thumbs up on the great profile pic by the way Doh, keep meaning to say it but forget. Gotta love the brentmeister.
Limping/making up is never a good plan because you are reliant upon getting lucky and someone else getting almost as lucky as you in order to pay you off.
So basically raise or fold preflop instead of limping, because you are playing out of position against totally random cards and you can never truly know where you are.With coming in with a raise you can narrow the field and have a better idea of where you are in the hand. Hands like KT and T8 might fold to a preflop raise but will never fold to a limp so you are in effect creating all your own problems well before you get asked the question.Always be the one asking and try not to be the one answering.
Being serious though when my roll was small I 2-tabled as well but for at least 2 hours a pop, you've barely started foreplay in 20 minutes.
On the bad beats this was one I had yesterday stung a bit but I know I print money in this spot longterm so it didn't have hardly any effect on my play, if anything I wanted to play more against them.