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unknown_username

Readless on villain. Not been involved too much so i put him as a reasonably 'solid' player for NL4.

Firstly, should i be c-betting this flop? It is a bit drawy. He's calling any J, any small straight draw with a raggy ace, and any flush draw. Does that make it a check or should i always c-bet after raising pre flop?

Secondly, what do i do now? If he was drawing it lookslike he has now hit.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.73
DrSharp	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.80
	Your hole cards	A Q
gaffer1939	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£0.80
CHRIS14	Fold
OhDancing1	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£3.38
x	Call		£0.02	£0.16	£4.71
DrSharp	Raise		£0.28	£0.44	£5.52
gaffer1939	Fold
OhDancing1	Fold
x	Call		£0.28	£0.72	£4.43
Flop
		4 J 3
x	Check
DrSharp	Bet		£0.40	£1.12	£5.12
x	Call		£0.40	£1.52	£4.03
Turn
		Q
x	Bet		£0.76	£2.28	£3.27
DrSharp	??

yb

cbet bigger, i'd flat the turn and re-evaluate on the river, i'd be vbetting on most non-club rivers if he checks.

percival09

what does that cbet even mean? you and the other 4NL players always say bet big when you get a big hand, so it's obv your bluffing when you bet around half pot, keep your sizings the same

call and fold to most bets on river - v.bet if checked to you

unknown_username

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what does that cbet even mean? you and the other 4NL players always say bet big when you get a big hand, so it's obv your bluffing when you bet around half pot, keep your sizings the same call and fold to most bets on river - v.bet if checked to you
Posted by percival09

A high percentage dont figure that out. Also, never played this villain before so he wont know any patterns. Saying that, it defo should be bigger. 3/4 pot at least. Looks weak.

unknown_username

I decided to call and re evaluate the river. What now? Easy fold?

Turn
		Q
x	Bet		£0.76	£2.28	£3.27
DrSharp	Call		£0.76	£3.04	£4.36
River
		J
x	Bet		£1.52	£4.56	£1.75
DrSharp	?

debdobs_67

Raise pre was fine
3/4 pot would be better cbet
flat turn
Give up time now imo

Dudeskin8

Pre looks good

Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot. 

Turn snap fold for me.

jams88

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Pre looks good Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot.  Turn snap fold for me.
Posted by Dudeskin8

This, if a player has missed the flop and is going to fold they will fold to 1/2 pot just as often as 3/4 and it makes it cheaper for you to see where you are

percival09

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Pre looks good Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot.  Turn snap fold for me.
Posted by Dudeskin8

can't wait until these players learn how to come onto this forum .. you're in for it! lol

LOL_RAISE

i actually like the cbet size, its quite a dry board no need to bet massive imo also smaller with bluffs bigger for value works fine

percival09

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i actually like the cbet size, its quite a dry board no need to bet massive imo also smaller with bluffs bigger for value works fine
Posted by LOL_RAISE

but considering he'd bet big if he hit, isnt the sizing bad? if the opponents had any sense they'd know

grantorino

not going to bother commenting on sizing, call turn, fold river looks ok to me

Dudeskin8

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In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy! : can't wait until these players learn how to come onto this forum .. you're in for it! lol
Posted by percival09

I'm figuring that that'll take them at least another 3 years lol