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GaryQQQ's Beginners Guide to Suckouts

GaryQQQGaryQQQ
edited September 2011 in Area 51
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited August 2011
    From the dictionary;

    Suck Out

    1. Verb

      To be dealt cards that complete one's hand or improve the hand enough to win even though the hand was previously an underdog.

      EXAMPLE: "I sucked out, but I've taken enough bad beats that I don't feel bad about laying a few now and then."

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      My opponent here made a type of suck out known as a runner-runner straight. He made an error of judgement by calling my all-in shove on the flop when he was miles behind. His best chance to win the pot was to get lucky by hitting an ace. However, on the 7 on the turn and the 8 on the river gave him a very unlikely straight to beat my kings and win him a 135 big-blind pot. 

      PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
      tinytellah Big blind  60.00 60.00 4770.00
       Your hole cards
      • K
      • K
      		   
      bellooww Raise  120.00 180.00 17077.50
      gillespie Fold     
      Taft Call  120.00 300.00 5091.25
      GaryQQQ Raise  480.00 780.00 3308.75
      tinytellah Fold     
      bellooww Call  360.00 1140.00 16717.50
      Taft Call  360.00 1500.00 4731.25
      Flop
        
      • 5
      • 5
      • 6
      		   
      bellooww Check     
      Taft Bet  750.00 2250.00 3981.25
      GaryQQQ All-in  3308.75 5558.75 0.00
      bellooww Fold     
      Taft All-in  3981.25 9540.00 0.00
      Taft Unmatched bet  1422.50 8117.50 1422.50
      Taft Show
      • 4
      • A
      		   
      GaryQQQ Show
      • K
      • K
      		   
      Turn
        
      • 8
      		   
      River
        
      • 7
      		   
      Taft Win Straight to the 8 8117.50  9540.00
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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited August 2011
    that is jst the sort of BULL SH i have had done to me for nearly 3 months now..  the worst bit is ppl say its not a bad beat... you should of played it differently...

    nothing wrong with your play ... only an IDIOT  would call that...
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited August 2011
    this is a typical novice call. And you have to realise that going all in dosnt matter to somepeople they get it in there head that an A is a premium hand think low cards i can still hit with 1 overcard and dont know how to fold it this player saw that they had somepart of a st8 draw if they hit runner runner as well lol. Unfortuantely as i forget sometimes at the table that there are novices or people just playin for money for the first time and dont have a clue. Not nice but this is going to happen. You have to learn how to play the bad players along with the good and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it but prey your hand will hold up.

    3months of bad runs is unlucky but ive had over 6 months or more and only just starting to get going ok again. You just have to stick with it m8 and play through your bad run.
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited August 2011
    The type of suck out in the example below is known as hitting a two outer.

    After my opponent raised I decided to 3-bet jam my pocket queens. When he called with a pocket pair of kings my only realistic way to win the pot was to hit one of my two outs, ie one of the two remaining queens in the deck. Hence the name 'two outer'. I also needed to dodge another king. Roughly 4 times out of every 5 the kings will win, however on this occasion I got lucky, the beautiful queen dealt on the turn completed my QQQ signature hand and won me the pot.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    tonygar Small blind  150.00 150.00 7200.00
    Alfie4paws Big blind  300.00 450.00 11662.50
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    		   
    MICKFISHEN Raise  600.00 1050.00 5550.00
    GaryQQQ All-in  3051.25 4101.25 0.00
    tonygar Fold     
    Alfie4paws Fold     
    MICKFISHEN Call  2451.25 6552.50 3098.75
    MICKFISHEN Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    GaryQQQ Show
    • Q
    • Q
    		   
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • 9
    • 7
    		   
    Turn
      
    • Q
    		   
    River
      
    • 9
    		   
    GaryQQQ Win Full House, Queens and 9s 6552.50  6552.50
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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited August 2011
    here is a proper one for you, i won a dym cos of this just now.....

    Hand History #407516301 (23:44 27/08/2011)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    beefyboy Small blind  50.00 50.00 1800.00
    bigal36903 Big blind  100.00 150.00 1435.00
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 10
    		   
    diddz11 Call  100.00 250.00 1580.00
    PUFFIN100 Fold     
    Deeek Raise  200.00 450.00 4745.00
    beefyboy Raise  550.00 1000.00 1250.00
    bigal36903 Fold     
    diddz11 All-in  1580.00 2580.00 0.00
    Deeek Call  1480.00 4060.00 3265.00
    beefyboy All-in  1250.00 5310.00 0.00
    Deeek Call  170.00 5480.00 3095.00
    beefyboy Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    diddz11 Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    Deeek Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		   
    Flop
      
    • K
    • 9
    • 8
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 7
    		   
    River
      
    • 6
    		   
    Deeek Win Straight to the 10 5480.00
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited August 2011
    I hope you made a note on Diddz.
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited August 2011
    In this example a player gets rivered.

    To be 'rivered' means that your cards were ahead on every single street and round of betting until your opponent got there on the river and sucked out. This can be particularly frustrating when he or was all-in before the river card was dealt.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    GaryQQQ Small blind  3000.00 3000.00 87562.00
    KRAY Big blind  6000.00 9000.00 46438.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    		   
    GaryQQQ All-in  87562.00 96562.00 0.00
    KRAY All-in  46438.00 143000.00 0.00
    GaryQQQ Unmatched bet  38124.00 104876.00 38124.00
    GaryQQQ Show
    • A
    • 10
    		   
    KRAY Show
    • Q
    • A
    		   
    Flop
      
    • K
    • 3
    • J
    		   
    Turn
      
    • J
    		   
    River
      
    • Q
    		   
    GaryQQQ Win Straight to the Ace 104876.00  143000.00
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited September 2011

    Here we have a rare example of two different types of suck out within one hand, this is the first hand of a HU SnG;

    Suck out A

    My opponent 5-bet jams his pocket 9s into my pocket kings. On the flop he makes your classic two-outer suck out when he hits a 9;

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    GaryQQQ Small blind  10.00 10.00 990.00
    Twitching Big blind  20.00 30.00 980.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    GaryQQQ Raise  40.00 70.00 950.00
    Twitching Raise  90.00 160.00 890.00
    GaryQQQ Raise  240.00 400.00 710.00
    Twitching All-in  890.00 1290.00 0.00
    GaryQQQ All-in  710.00 2000.00 0.00
    GaryQQQ Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    Twitching Show
    • 9
    • 9
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 6
    • 4
    		 

    Suck out B

    'It's not over 'til the fat lady sings' as they say. I re-suck out by making a runner-runner flush on the river to claim the pot.
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 6
    • 4
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 3
    		     
    River
       
    • 2
    		     
    GaryQQQ Win Flush to the King 2000.00  2000.00
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  • spornybolspornybol
    edited September 2011
    THIS WAS TOTTY LAST NITE, KNEW PLOPPY HAD AIR, BUT COME ON, CARRIED ON WATCHING AFTER HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY GET LUCKY ON RIVER LOL
    ActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    oilyrag Small blind  1500.00 1500.00 24106.84
    spornybol Big blind  3000.00 4500.00 17151.66
     Your hole cards
    • 8
    • A
    		   
    Manser1 Fold     
    Ploppy33 All-in  82245.32 86745.32 0.00
    oilyrag Fold     
    spornybol All-in  17151.66 103896.98 0.00
    Ploppy33 Unmatched bet  62093.66 41803.32 62093.66
    spornybol Show
    • 8
    • A
    		   
    Ploppy33 Show
    • A
    • 2
    		   
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 3
    • 10
    		   
    Turn
      
    • J
    		   
    River
      
    • K
    		   
    Ploppy33 Win Flush to the King 41803.32  103896.98
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: GaryQQQ's Beginners Guide to Suckouts:
    THIS WAS TOTTY LAST NITE, KNEW PLOPPY HAD AIR, BUT COME ON, CARRIED ON WATCHING AFTER HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY GET LUCKY ON RIVER LOL
    Posted by spornybol
    I'm not being funny or anything but have you beaten up an elderly, gypsy woman recently Spornybol ?
    You don't run too clever as a rule do you ?
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  • spornybolspornybol
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: GaryQQQ's Beginners Guide to Suckouts:
    In Response to Re: GaryQQQ's Beginners Guide to Suckouts : I'm not being funny or anything but have you beaten up an elderly, gypsy woman recently Spornybol ? You don't run too clever as a rule do you ?
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    RAN OK IN DTD LAST NITE JOINT 2ND OK 3RD BUT ONLY BECAUSE 2ND DID A LITTLE BETTER IN ONE GAME, OK 7.15 DEEPY SHOCKING BY MY STANDARD, BUT THERE`S ALWAYS NEXT GAME AND NEXT WEEK. 
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited September 2011
    Well i didnt call , i mean i did take the bull by the horns ;))
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    coldasal Small blind  15.00 15.00 970.00
    ROBBC Big blind  30.00 45.00 1845.00
     Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 6
    		   
    ajm31 Call  30.00 75.00 2280.00
    debdobs_67 Raise  120.00 195.00 1200.00
    rod215 Fold     
    bigrob1990 Raise  210.00 405.00 3940.00
    coldasal Call  195.00 600.00 775.00
    ROBBC Call  180.00 780.00 1665.00
    ajm31 Call  180.00 960.00 2100.00
    debdobs_67 All-in  1200.00 2160.00 0.00
    bigrob1990 Call  1110.00 3270.00 2830.00
    coldasal All-in  775.00 4045.00 0.00
    ROBBC Fold     
    ajm31 Fold     
    coldasal Show
    • J
    • J
    		   
    debdobs_67 Show
    • 8
    • 6
    		   
    bigrob1990 Show
    • 10
    • Q
    		   
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • 8
    • 6
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 7
    		   
    River
      
    • 6
    		   
    debdobs_67 Win Full House, 6s and 8s 4045.00  4045.00



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  • spornybolspornybol
    edited September 2011

    NOT PMSL

     Small blind  75.00 75.00 3000.00 adrianne1 Big blind  150.00 225.00 1325.00  Your hole cards A A    spornybol Raise  600.00 825.00 3860.00 1All-in  2990.00 3815.00 0.00 seant Fold     adrianne1 Fold     spornybol Call  2390.00 6205.00 1470.00 spornybol Show A A    1 Show 2 K    Flop  K J K    Turn  5    River  7    1 Win Three Kings 6205.00  6205.00

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