Coping with varience any tips?

jams88

Me again just managed to lose 5IN in less than an hour. I know im underolled to be playing nl4 if we take the 20BI rule (can't afford to deposit again) but had made it up to 14BI so was pretty close until this happened. Running normally it will take me 10hours to win this back. Should i take a break if my play remains solid even though im frustrated. I will be playing the same when i come back to it so why bother? any advice for how to deal with the down swings? im multitabling to try and reduce the varience but lost on all my tables just now sigh


Some of the contributing hands posted pretty sure they are badbeats or coolers but shout if you see anything wrong
Standard hand

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jamwa	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£7.54
journeyman	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.14
	Your hole cards	10 A
jams88	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£4.03
Gorky	Fold
keverne22	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£0.92
hitachi515	Call		£0.20	£0.66	£4.45
jamwa	Fold
journeyman	Fold
Flop
		10 3 6
jams88	Bet		£0.66	£1.32	£3.37
keverne22	All-in		£0.92	£2.24	£0.00
hitachi515	Fold
jams88	Call		£0.26	£2.50	£3.11
jams88	Show	10 A
keverne22	Show	5 6
Turn
		J
River
		4
keverne22	Win	Flush to the 10	£2.31		£2.31

Same villan pretty much the same hand!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jamwa	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£8.23
journeyman	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£0.94
	Your hole cards	10 A
jams88	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£2.71
keverne22	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£2.11
hitachi515	Fold
jamwa	Fold
journeyman	Call		£0.16	£0.62	£0.78
Flop
		2 10 3
journeyman	Check
jams88	Bet		£0.62	£1.24	£2.09
keverne22	Call		£0.62	£1.86	£1.49
journeyman	Fold
Turn
		4
jams88	All-in		£2.09	£3.95	£0.00
keverne22	All-in		£1.49	£5.44	£0.00
jams88	Unmatched bet		£0.60	£4.84	£0.60
jams88	Show	10 A
keverne22	Show	6 5
River
		K
keverne22	Win	Straight to the 6	£4.47		£4.47

This guy isn't exactly a reg but plays afair bit of nl4 thought he was on the flush draw from his time tells think i would have had to fold his hand here but should i check the river?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MG42	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.41
Baz09	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.86
	Your hole cards	8 8
KYZA	Fold
jams88	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.71
chaznchips	Fold
MG42	Fold
Baz09	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.70
Flop
		J 3 9
Baz09	Check
jams88	Bet		£0.28	£0.70	£3.43
Baz09	Call		£0.28	£0.98	£3.42
Turn
		2
Baz09	Check
jams88	Bet		£0.74	£1.72	£2.69
Baz09	Call		£0.74	£2.46	£2.68
River
		3
Baz09	Check
jams88	Bet		£1.85	£4.31	£0.84
Baz09	Call		£1.85	£6.16	£0.83
jams88	Show	8 8
Baz09	Show	10 10
Baz09	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 3s	£5.69		£6.52

As he limped i feel i have to call here as its around 3/1 can't see how i can make the fold but is that too loose? (not something im usually accused of)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
usoges24	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.87
jams88	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.08
	Your hole cards	K Q
flatweasel	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.06
Gibbo77	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£5.65
jaieboy196	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£3.88
usoges24	Call		£0.02	£0.20	£3.85
jams88	Raise		£0.28	£0.48	£3.80
flatweasel	All-in		£1.06	£1.54	£0.00
Gibbo77	Fold
jaieboy196	Fold
usoges24	Fold
jams88	Call		£0.78	£2.32	£3.02
jams88	Show	K Q
flatweasel	Show	K K
Flop
		6 8 9
Turn
		A
River
		10
flatweasel	Win	Pair of Kings	£2.14		£2.14

I have seen this villain make the same shove 3 times with 66-99 can i ignore the previous hands i have seen?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
marc369	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.54
KYZA	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.44
bobcam	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£1.56
	Your hole cards	J J
WELSHWENCH	Fold
jams88	Raise		£0.24	£0.34	£4.87
bobcam	Fold
chiprat	Call		£0.24	£0.58	£1.60
marc369	Fold
KYZA	Fold
Flop
		K 3 7
jams88	Bet		£0.32	£0.90	£4.55
chiprat	All-in		£1.60	£2.50	£0.00
jams88	Call		£1.28	£3.78	£3.27
jams88	Show	J J
chiprat	Show	K A
Turn
		5
River
		7
chiprat	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 7s	£3.49		£3.49

This guy is a reg no idiea why he minraised then flatted odd play

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
fat_as	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.36
jams88	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.18
	Your hole cards	10 10
devonfish5	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£4.71
fat_as	Call		£0.06	£0.20	£2.30
jams88	Raise		£0.28	£0.48	£3.90
devonfish5	Call		£0.24	£0.72	£4.47
fat_as	Call		£0.24	£0.96	£2.06
Flop
		A 10 K
fat_as	Check
jams88	Bet		£0.72	£1.68	£3.18
devonfish5	Call		£0.72	£2.40	£3.75
fat_as	Fold
Turn
		K
jams88	All-in		£3.18	£5.58	£0.00
devonfish5	Call		£3.18	£8.76	£0.57
jams88	Show	10 10
devonfish5	Show	A A
River
		J
devonfish5	Win	Full House, Aces and Kings	£8.10		£8.67

wtf how are you still in the hand lol

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
fat_as	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.49
jams88	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.99
	Your hole cards	J 10
MJ1986	Raise		£0.08	£0.14	£3.19
devonfish5	Fold
fat_as	Call		£0.06	£0.20	£2.43
jams88	Call		£0.04	£0.24	£3.95
Flop
		5 J 7
fat_as	Check
jams88	Bet		£0.24	£0.48	£3.71
MJ1986	Call		£0.24	£0.72	£2.95
fat_as	Fold
Turn
		10
jams88	Bet		£0.64	£1.36	£3.07
MJ1986	Call		£0.64	£2.00	£2.31
River
		7
jams88	Bet		£1.50	£3.50	£1.57
MJ1986	All-in		£2.31	£5.81	£0.00
jams88	Call		£0.81	£6.62	£0.76
jams88	Show	J 10
MJ1986	Show	Q 9
MJ1986	Win	Flush to the Queen	£6.12		£6.12

Pretty sure the shorty will call and obviously he isn't beating me often...

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jams88	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.30
Buzzzzzzzi	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£5.71
	Your hole cards	K K
DMAN354	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£1.28
KYZA	Fold
WELSHWENCH	Fold
jams88	All-in		£3.30	£3.48	£0.00
Buzzzzzzzi	Fold
DMAN354	All-in		£1.28	£4.76	£0.00
jams88	Unmatched bet		£1.92	£2.84	£1.92
jams88	Show	K K
DMAN354	Show	A A
Flop
		9 A 6
Turn
		10
River
		5
DMAN354	Win	Three Aces	£2.62		£2.62

Dudeskin8

A10 hands both fine.

88 check turn and river.

KQ probably just about ok.

JJ fold to shove.

1010 I probably don't shove turn being so massive lol but fair play nh.

J10 I snap fold pre. As played looks fine.

KK DO NOT shove reraise to like 50p call shove obvz

jams88

But do you continue playing when your losing or take a break? read a book? spin around in your chair abit then carry on whats the best solution?

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: Coping with varience any tips?:

But do you continue playing when your losing or take a break? read a book? spin around in your chair abit then carry on whats the best solution?
Posted by jams88

If you're playing 100% perfect poker and still losing you just keep playing as it will change.

Here there are some obvious errors so you need to change them to get better.

percival09

my god there's a lot of hands

majority of them you were behind on the flop anyway

on one of them you were betting like 81st pair ? c/f

Lambert180

It's different for everyone really, some people go on tilt after one time of getting KK v AA, some people can take them and still just carry on with their A game.

If you feel yourself widening your opening range or calling bets on the flop when afterwards you know you wouldn't have done that normally, just get up and leave all your tables.

Some people leave it 10 mins, some people leave it an hour, some wait til the next day but just leave it until you feel refreshed and know you can come back and play your A game again.

debdobs_67

I dont care how GOOD any player is as they will experience negative variance , but tbh youve made a few mistakes here dear xxx

jams88

Calling the shove with jacks isn't something i would do against any other opponant but as i said iv seen him make the same call 3 times with a hand im beating and never...until now with a hand i beat so felt the call was right in this situation

The 8s wasn't against a normal fish from nl4 so i thought to try and put the pressure on against someone who is more likely to consider folding should have checked the river really but too late for should ofs now

Im only cheating myself if i posted only the hands that could have gone differently but as these are pretty much the only hands that i played in this session (hands that saw the flop anyway)  thought to post them all and my reasons for the plays i made to get feedback from you guys which is always appricaited.

Just hard when your playing nl4 and can't win a decent pot lol

N1CK

88 hand i would bet flop and turn your gettin value from draws so no point betting river as your only getting called by better, take the showdown

rancid

Having a bad run can be a lonely place and it feels like your the unluckiest players in the world.

Watch soem vids of bad beats etc... Makes you feel less alone and you start to see the funny side.

watch this it's so funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-ffyW6joc

grantorino

1 fine
2 fine
3 check flop, check turn, definitely check river
4 you are getting just over 2/1, call prob ok though
5 fold to flop raise
6 I prob flat pre, but it looks ok
7 fold pre, check flop
8 fine